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"To register, please email info@theseedsofscience.org with your  name, title (can be anything/optional), institution (same as title), and link (personal website, twitter, or linkedin is fine) for your listing on the gardeners page. From there, it's pretty self-explanatory - I will add you to the mailing list and send you an email that includes the manuscript, our publication criteria, and a simple review form for recording votes/comments."


 

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Seeds of Science is a new journal (funded through Scott Alexander's ACX grants program) that publishes speculative or non-traditional articles on scientific topics. Peer review is conducted through community-based voting and commenting by a diverse network of reviewers (or "gardeners" as we call them). 

We just sent out an article for review that may be of particular interest to the EA community so I wanted to see if anyone would be interested in joining us a gardener to review the article. It is free to join and anyone is welcome (we currently have gardeners from all levels of academia and outside of it). Participation is entirely voluntary - we send you submitted articles and you can choose to vote/comment or abstain without notification (so it's no worries if you don't plan on reviewing often but just want to take a look here and there at what kinds of articles people are submitting). 

To register, please email info@theseedsofscience.org with your  name, title (can be anything/optional), institution (same as title), and link (personal website, twitter, or linkedin is fine) for your listing on the gardeners page. From there, it's pretty self-explanatory - I will add you to the mailing list and send you an email that includes the manuscript, our publication criteria, and a simple review form for recording votes/comments.

Happy to answer any questions about the journal through email or in the comments below. Here is the title/abstract for the article. 

Moral Weights of Six Animals, Considering Viewpoint Uncertainty

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Many utilitarians would like a number to use to evaluate the moral impact of actions that affect animals. However, there is a great disagreement among scholars involved with animal ethics, both about how much different animals can suffer and how much that suffering morally matters. This paper produces estimates of moral weight, accounting for this uncertainty. We ran a Monte Carlo simulation that samples the ranges of major viewpoints scholars hold in the field, to show a spread of uncertainty for how we should treat six representative animals: crickets, salmon, chickens, pigs, cows, and elephants. The results show that the uncertainty is very large, with a 90% confidence interval ranging between an animal having no value and being valued as much as a human being. Therefore, we present 20% and 40% confidence intervals, as well as the median and geometric mean.


 

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brb2431
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What do you think of taking the log of neuron count dividing that by neural complexity and adding the total wellbeing impact of the individual to get the relative moral value? Intuitively, this can make sense: 

1) The more neurons, the more the individual can feel (but the intensity of perception can increase slower than the number of neurons).

2) The higher the neural complexity - which can correlate with one's ability to feel better about exteroceptive stimuli because they have more, either rational or emotional/intuitive experience (that is either due to ancestors' experience or the individual's life) to 'deal with them,' the less intensely the individual perceives.[1]

3) The impact of the individual on net wellbeing[2] should be added. I am suggesting this weighting.

For humans, especially privileged ones, 3) could make the contribution from individual's wellbeing negligible in the total because they can have much more influence on others. For individuals with less choices, including confined non-human animals,[3] on the contrary, the contribution of 3) can be neglected because these animals do not influence others.

How does this compare with what you found (and how is either finding more accurate)?

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    This can correlate with 3) but due to a sum, there should be no double-counting.

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    The devil can be in determining the counterfactual to use. For humans, this can be i) e. g. impact due to action, ii) due to inaction (to what extent that should be understood in a utilitarian way), iii) due to unfulfilled potential - e. g. someone did not study to be able to influence decisionmakers even though they could, or iv) due to unfulfilled capacity - e. g. someone who studied and can influence decisionmakers choses another job. For animals, this can be similar, except that animal's free will is intuitively understood as lower. For example, if a chicken in a crammed barn chose to try killing others instead of upskilling them in teaching young chicken to prevent diseases, it can be attributed to norms and environment set by the human caretakers rather than the choice of the chicken.

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    Assuming that they cannot influence the wellbeing of others, e. g. by presenting positive attitude.

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rogersbacon15
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This sounds great to me but I'm not the author, I just run the journal. We'd love to have you share your review of the article - "To register, please email info@theseedsofscience.org with your  name, title (can be anything/optional), institution (same as title), and link (personal website, twitter, or linkedin is fine) for your listing on the gardeners page. From there, it's pretty self-explanatory - I will add you to the mailing list and send you an email that includes the manuscript, our publication criteria, and a simple review form for recording votes/comments." 

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brb2431
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Thank you. I encourage you to

1) Encourage authors of EA-related articles to make their work publicly accessible

2) Post summaries of relevant articles on the EA Forum to facilitate discussion without the need to register and further ease the work of gardeners

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sapphire1
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Where is the article?

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rogersbacon12
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"To register, please email info@theseedsofscience.org with your  name, title (can be anything/optional), institution (same as title), and link (personal website, twitter, or linkedin is fine) for your listing on the gardeners page. From there, it's pretty self-explanatory - I will add you to the mailing list and send you an email that includes the manuscript, our publication criteria, and a simple review form for recording votes/comments."


 

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