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I think many people following effective altruism principles are focusing on politics, but don't write it in places like the EA forum, because the EA brand is toxic in many circles, and/or has a significant chance of becoming toxic in the future.

See e.g. NIST staffers revolt against expected appointment of ‘effective altruist’ AI researcher to US AI Safety Institute

While both are rich by global standards, someone in the top 10% ($20k/year) and someone in the top 1% (>$60k/year) have very different abilities to donate.

This becomes even more noticeable as relatively less rich people also often have to support their families, pay off debts, and can't rely on a future inheritance.

ETA: One org used to ask something like: "if you earned $50k, how much would you donate and why?" which imho mitigates this (although not perfectly)

Do you have a sense of how important Hanania's support was for the post going viral?

It would make me update on the value of being more iclusive towards people who have very different beliefs which seem incompatible with altruism.

And the amount spent in ads, I think X ads to promote EAG might be a new thing

I think using an anonymous account helps a bit with that, especially when writing praise feels cringy

I probably need to stop saying that AI hasn't passed the Turing test yet then. I guess it has!

By that definition, ELIZA would have passed the Turing test in 1966

But I do really like that these researchers have put the test online for people to try!

https://turingtest.live/

Thanks for sharing, it's an interesting experience.

As you mention for now it's really easy to tell humans and AIs apart, but I found it surprisingly hard to convince people I was human.

I think a main argument related to that perspective is that you shouldn't tax wealth but you should tax consumption (holding billions in stocks and bonds has positive externalities, buying a yacht fleet has negative externalities)

I obviously don't agree with it, so I'm likely not presenting the strongest version of the arguments, but you can see an example of people holding this view in the twitter screenshot above, and I think it's not uncommon

Yes that's a fair point. Do you think the claim itself is false?

I was under the impression that many YMBY/Abundance/Progress Studies-minded EA communities were operating with that theory of change, am I wrong?