I have only limited resources with which to do good. If I'm not doing good directly through a full-time job, I budget 20% of my income toward doing as much good as possible, and then I don't worry about it after that. If I spend time and money on advocating for a ceasefire, that's time and money that I can't spend on something else.
If you ask me my opinion about whether Israel should attack Gaza, I'd say they shouldn't. But I don't know enough about the issue to say what should be done about it, and I doubt advocacy on this issue would be very effective—"Israel and Palestine should stop fighting" has been more or less the consensus position among the general public for ~70 years, and it still hasn't happened, and I doubt anything I do will have an impact on the same scale as a donation to a GiveWell top charity.
To convince me to advocate for a ceasefire, you have to argue not just that it's good, but that it's the best thing I could be doing. All you've said is that it's good. Why is it the best thing that I could be doing? I'd like this post better if you said more about why it's the best thing. (I doubt I'd end up agreeing, but I appreciate when people make the argument.)
Thanks for taking the time to reply! And thanks for acknowledging that it's a good thing to advocate for a ceasefire.
Here is my rationale for it being the best thing:
I know it is naive and simplistic to say, but war kills and peace saves lives, no matter the circumstance, parties, or reason for the conflict. If we believe that every human life is valued equally, saving the lives of even the most egregious combatants is worthwhile.
A ceasefire would mitigate further deaths in Palestine, right now. True, protests to end the conflict haven't been effective for three quarters of a century, but I don't understand how it is an argument for not trying to end the acute crisis, while hospitals are being shut down.
Escalation of this conflict is highly possible, in my opinion. I am sorry to repeat this part of the post, but two historically oppressed people are feeling attacked, worldwide. It is hard to play fair when you are feeling attacked, oppressed, downtrodden. It increases the risk of dehumanizing the other side, and illegal war strategies, like chemical weapons, attacks on hospitals and social infrastructure, cutting off supply lines, etc. Most worrisome, is the people who are feeling oppressed don't just live in Palestine and Israel; the conflict runs the risk of scaling up fast. Hate crimes are already happening in America. The Biden administration is already talking of war.
Regarding time, I am only suggesting you share protests for ceasefire on social media, if you are not doing so already. This takes seconds, considerably less than the time it took you to earn the 20% of your income that you are donating (kudos to you, btw). It takes so little time, I am suggesting you can both advocate for ceasefire in addition to the good you do, without impact on you QoL.
I don't think I am exaggerating when I suggest your efforts could help to save thousand, maybe millions. Not you alone, of course, but as I indicated in my other reply, as part of a movement. I also believe in the ripple effect - if you share your opinion on social media, people who respect and value your opinion may change their mind on the matter, and share calls for a ceasefire to their connections.
If I can summarize, seconds of your time may have both impact for thousands of people in Palestine right now, and advocating for peace might prevent WWIII. It might not, but what is the downside in trying?
'Use your connections, media, and social media to push your country's leaders to call for de-escalation and ceasefire. This costs you nothing but time' - what concretely do you suggest, for me and people like me? (I'm an ordinary person living in the UK). I think what usually stops me from taking particular action at times like this is a sense that nothing I can do will matter. I could post on social media that I want the conflict to stop, but I don't think anyone influential will notice or care.
I don't mean this as an excuse, I just get really frustrated by calls to action that are not concrete, because I really take on board the moral force but I don't actually know how to do something about it, and my time and energy isn't infinite.
Thanks for your reply; I may be naive, but I think even engaging in the conversation is a start. Even by replying to this post helps it to be seen and considered.
I think that like you, every ‘ordinary person’ downplays their role. Human rights movements, including civil rights, anti-apartheid, and suffrage all happened because of actions of ordinary people. Sure, by yourself you may not have massive influence, but if you share with your social group, your friends and family may pick it up and share with their social group. I agree that time and energy aren’t infinite - I don’t see myself having the time to join one of the street demonstrations, for example, but retweeting pleas for a ceasefire takes seconds.
For what it’s worth, I also take on board the moral force, and feel generally helpless. It is the reason why I am going to these various forums to which I belong, to try and gain traction. Sharing, upvoting, and commenting on this post would also help, as cheesy as the ask may be. Thank you
ETA: For those downvoting, tell me, what is your reason?
EAs, here is your opportunity to save thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of lives. The crisis in the Middle East is escalating, and the European and American leaders are endorsing a genocide, which you can work to stop - today.
Here is the short version of the crisis: on October 7, 2023, Hamas, a Palestinian terrorist organization, attacked multiple targets in Israel, and killed thousands, which were unquestionably indefensible war crimes. However, the response has far exceeded the offense, amounting to ethnic cleansing and genocide. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu live-tweeted the bombing of Palestinian infrastructure, indicating "The images of the devastation and destruction from the Hamas strongholds in Gaza are just the beginning. We have eliminated many hundreds of terrorists, and we will not stop there", while using genocidal language, such as "human beasts" and "purify the settlements" in reference to Palestinians. Netanyahu seems emboldened by American and European support, noting "I am in continuous contact with President Biden, and I would like to thank him again, on behalf of all the citizens of Israel, for the commitment of the USA in words and deeds for the security of Israel.", while according to Ursula von der Leyen, "Israel can count on the EU". Indeed, the State Department has warned officials to not use three phrases in the media: "de-escalation/ceasefire", "end to violence/bloodshed" and "restoring calm". The Israeli Defense Minister also leaves no question about the threat to Gaza, “Gaza won’t return to what it was before; we will eliminate everything”, then began the chokehold on Gaza by cutting off electricity, food, and fuel, again using the genocidal language of "human animals". Shortly, the internet to Gaza will be disconnected. The Israeli military has ordered the 1.1 million Gazans living in the north to evacuate within 24 hours, which is logistically impossible. Whole hospitals cannot be moved within 24 hours. Thousands of civilians are at risk of being indiscriminately killed. Evacuees have already been targeted. For those who will argue Israel must defend itself, war crimes do not justify war crimes against civilians. Chemical weapons are not justified. Thus far, half the dead are women and children. Here is a summary from a Jewish perspective. If you dismiss these concerns, I question your moral circle, and whose lives you value.
If you believe this conflict does not affect you, and thus, you should not be involved, understand that unless there is a sea change movement for ceasefire, it will involve you. Two historically oppressed worldwide faith groups, Jewish and Muslim, are both feeling attacked right now, and are using the rhetoric of holy war. Massive protests are happening worldwide. In the opinion of one historian of Palestine, "Jewish State, through its policies of occupation, apartheid & ethnic cleansing, is leading to more dead Jews in Israel and more anti-Jewish hate abroad than any other force today". Attacked people do not show mercy.
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Use your connections, media, and social media to push your country's leaders to call for de-escalation and ceasefire. This costs you nothing but time, and a large organization like EA could have sway with American and European powers. As long as America and Europe support Israeli attacks on Gaza, Israel will continue with impunity, and the conflict will escalate.
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I have only limited resources with which to do good. If I'm not doing good directly through a full-time job, I budget 20% of my income toward doing as much good as possible, and then I don't worry about it after that. If I spend time and money on advocating for a ceasefire, that's time and money that I can't spend on something else.
If you ask me my opinion about whether Israel should attack Gaza, I'd say they shouldn't. But I don't know enough about the issue to say what should be done about it, and I doubt advocacy on this issue would be very effective—"Israel and Palestine should stop fighting" has been more or less the consensus position among the general public for ~70 years, and it still hasn't happened, and I doubt anything I do will have an impact on the same scale as a donation to a GiveWell top charity.
To convince me to advocate for a ceasefire, you have to argue not just that it's good, but that it's the best thing I could be doing. All you've said is that it's good. Why is it the best thing that I could be doing? I'd like this post better if you said more about why it's the best thing. (I doubt I'd end up agreeing, but I appreciate when people make the argument.)
Thanks for taking the time to reply! And thanks for acknowledging that it's a good thing to advocate for a ceasefire.
Here is my rationale for it being the best thing: