"Much of Kat and Emerson’s effective altruist work focuses on mentoring young effective altruists and incubating organizations. I believe the balance of the evidence—much of it from their own defense of their actions—shows that they are hilariously ill-suited for that job."
I don't think that the recent posts give a balanced view of their work (e.g. I haven't seen any section anywhere titled 'Positive things Nonlinear did/achieved'). I don't think there is enough information to judge to what extent they are suitable for their mentoring/incubating job.
In an attempt to bring in some balancing anecdote, I personally have had positive experiences doing regular coaching calls with Kat over the past year and feel that her input has been very helpful.
Congrats Brad! I'll watch this tonight I wanted to link this post here in case someone who might benefit from it might see it here: How to get EA ideas onto the TEDx stage
To share some anecdotal data: I personally have had positive experiences doing regular coaching calls with Kat this year and feel that her input has been very helpful.
I would encourage us all to put off updating until we also get the second side of the story - that generally seems like good practice to me whenever it is possible.
A related question: Is LTFF more likely to fund a small AI safety research group than to fund individual independent AI Safety researchers?
So could we see a scenario where, if person A, B or C apply individually for an independent research grant, they might not meet your funding bar. But where, if similarly impressive people with a similarly good research agenda applied as a research group, they would be a more attractive funding opportunity for you?
I understand what tension you are describing, a question for clarification: I personally am not familiar with your description that "EA is already known for shoving women into community building/operations roles", where does this sense come from?
And I think that's another tangible proposal you're making here which I'd like to draw attention to and make explicit to see what others think: creating quota for how many spots have to go to women at conferences, organizations, fellowships etc.
Thanks a lot for sharing! Added it to our list of AI Safety & Resilience Founding Opportunities
Updated it, thanks Jai! Feel free to PM if there's anything else to change
Ah I'm sorry, I only scanned the post and missed your sentence at the top. Thanks!
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Rafaels' conclusionthe takeaways:"Much of Kat and Emerson’s effective altruist work focuses on mentoring young effective altruists and incubating organizations. I believe the balance of the evidence—much of it from their own defense of their actions—shows that they are hilariously ill-suited for that job."
I don't think that the recent posts give a balanced view of their work (e.g. I haven't seen any section anywhere titled 'Positive things Nonlinear did/achieved'). I don't think there is enough information to judge to what extent they are suitable for their mentoring/incubating job.
In an attempt to bring in some balancing anecdote, I personally have had positive experiences doing regular coaching calls with Kat over the past year and feel that her input has been very helpful.
Thanks for making this series! I added it to this oversight of project ideas Impactful Projects and Organizations to Start - List of Lists.
Commenting here because I thought it might be useful to know this list of lists exists for those who are drawn to this post.
Congrats Brad! I'll watch this tonight
I wanted to link this post here in case someone who might benefit from it might see it here: How to get EA ideas onto the TEDx stage
To share some anecdotal data: I personally have had positive experiences doing regular coaching calls with Kat this year and feel that her input has been very helpful.
I would encourage us all to put off updating until we also get the second side of the story - that generally seems like good practice to me whenever it is possible.
Thanks for the post!
A related question: Is LTFF more likely to fund a small AI safety research group than to fund individual independent AI Safety researchers?
So could we see a scenario where, if person A, B or C apply individually for an independent research grant, they might not meet your funding bar. But where, if similarly impressive people with a similarly good research agenda applied as a research group, they would be a more attractive funding opportunity for you?
Thanks for publishing this! I added it to this list of impactful org/project ideas
I understand what tension you are describing, a question for clarification: I personally am not familiar with your description that "EA is already known for shoving women into community building/operations roles", where does this sense come from?
And I think that's another tangible proposal you're making here which I'd like to draw attention to and make explicit to see what others think: creating quota for how many spots have to go to women at conferences, organizations, fellowships etc.