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(Opinions here my own by default though will sometimes speak in a professional capacity).
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Thanks for this. I’ve read through the whole thing though haven’t thought about the numbers in depth yet. I’m hoping to write a forum post with my retrospective on the AI in Context video at some point!
A few quick thoughts which I imagine won’t be very new to people:
Mostly this is on vibes, and the MIRI team trying hard and seeming very successful and getting a lot of buzz, great blurbs, some billboards, etc.
I saw this tweet
E.g., the book is likely to become a NYT bestseller. The exact position can be improved by more pre-orders. (The figure is currently at around 5k pre-orders, according to the q&a; +20k more would make it a #1 bestseller).
Chat says about that
If preorders = 5k, you’re probably looking at 8k–15k total copies sold in week 1 (preorders + launch week sales).
Recently, nonfiction books debuting around 8k–12k week-1 copies often chart #8–#15 on the NYT list.
Lifetime Sales Ranges
Conservative: 20k–30k copies total (good for a nonfiction debut with moderate buzz).
Optimistic: 40k–60k (if reviews, media, podcasts, or TikTok keep it alive).
Breakout: 100k+ (usually requires either a viral moment, institutional adoption, or the author becoming part of a big public debate).
Is that a lot? I don't actually know, would be that’s not that many, but a decent number and might get a lot of buzz, commentary, etc. This is a major crux so I'd be interested in take.
I think the arguments here are clear but let me know if not
e.g.
Very interested in takes!
Not sure if that’s the same distinction I would make but broadly just takes a long time to write a full script that we’re happy with, which includes figuring out the right structure, the high level narratives, the beats we want to hit, the takeaways, giving it a good emotional arc, etc.