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Thank you for bringing attention to this insane issue.

And thank you @Chad Brouze for your comments further shedding light on why they aren't decapitated first (and why that probably wouldn't be enough).

As horrifying as this issue is, I'm grateful I don't have to learn and deal with it alone. Please don't hesitate to let me know if there anything I can do to help support the solution.

Hey Mr. Bollard, thanks so much for yet another informative and inspiring post. 

And thanks for your endorsement of Farmkind. 

Tbh I wasn't sure how much I should trust it since its a really new org but I'm guessing it's got to be good if you're mentioning it.

Thanks for sharing that slide although I'm curious how you got it?

I tried and failed to find, but would love to see, the original slide show.

P.S. If it's not too personal, I'm just curious how is your first video (on AI 2027) so incredibly polished? Did you work with a more experienced videography team?

I think you make a lot of good points even though I ended up disagreeing with your conclusion.  For now I'll reply to just one argument, since no one will probably even read this one:

"Seeing someone willingly make personal sacrifices for the sake of morality encourages others to act ethically, too."

I think that striving for veganism actually discourages most people from acting ethically about animals i.e. offsetting their footprint with donations, because it's adding a hurdle in the path to helping animals.

It's like demanding people do handstands before entering the gym. 

  • It would be cool if everyone could handstands but not everyone is ready for that. And it's not even needed to be in good shape i.e. have a positive overall impact on animal welfare.

It also reminds me of oil companies pressuring people to do their part by turning off the lights when not using them and shortening showers. It seems like a trivial distraction from the systematic change, and the funding and broad public support, that is really needed.

It's stuff like this that makes me fall in love with this community.

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