I’ve done a good amount of qualitative research professionally. I like how you present this research.
That being said, there’s a couple of things:
Your conclusions are well-known principles in communication. 1 and 5 are essentially “Specific and singular beats vague and abstract.” 3’s phrasing I assume is Claude nonsense but “Progressively address objections just before they appear” is also comms 101. 4. Is literally “Have a CTA”, that advice would be good, but mentioning fear without mentioning anything about the specifics of fear-based messaging is a mistake. It is sometimes very productive or counterproductive, reality is hard, it depends. My biggest complaint is that this article has the smell of the Claude’s “everything is a reframe” when the informational content of the article is actually very poor. This is unfortunate because a human-led analysis might have led to interesting insights. You could have come to the same conclusions without any analysis. I assume that you used LLMs to classify comments, even with the latest, there is a bunch of pitfalls. Without seeing any kind of methodology, it’s hard to take this seriously. What code book did you use? Who labeled what? Skimming the broader article, it looks like slop.
Given the titles, I assume you used Claude but did not disclose it. This is a trust attack you could have pre empted!
I would have like for the tone to be somewhat more compassionate, but it’s hard enough to get people to take communication seriously that articles like that pushing it in the other direction deeply annoys me
As a communications professional, I believe there is no point front loading an accurate picture of EA, warts and all, early in someone's journey with EA because at this point they do not care about this. They are looking to see whether EA can help them have an impact.
So I don't think the "persuasive vs. informative" framing is the right one, I see CEA's strategy as meeting people where they are, and trying to do this well, which indeed means simplifying the messaging a lot, especially early on, because it is a necessary condition to being heard.
Using 'persuasion' techniques, such as relying on social proof, is usually what it takes to be heard in a crowded information environment too, of course, 'persuasive' communications increases growth.
(I don't like the persuasive framing because it doesn't convey that good communications is about providing value to people, if you provide value, you just need people to see and decide to grab it, which is different from 'persuading'.)
It seems like you are pointing out that the community, steered by CEA's stewardship, is picking the wrong side on some trade-offs, like community size vs. strength of bonds. I wonder if you also see it as a trade-off, or do you think the problems you point at could be solved by investing resources to meet people further in their EA journey.
Félix Dorn 🔸
Head of Communications @ French Center for AI Safety
I’ve done a good amount of qualitative research professionally. I like how you present this research.
That being said, there’s a couple of things:
I assume that you used LLMs to classify comments, even with the latest, there is a bunch of pitfalls. Without seeing any kind of methodology, it’s hard to take this seriously. What code book did you use? Who labeled what? Skimming the broader article, it looks like slop.
I would have like for the tone to be somewhat more compassionate, but it’s hard enough to get people to take communication seriously that articles like that pushing it in the other direction deeply annoys me
Thank you for writing this.
As a communications professional, I believe there is no point front loading an accurate picture of EA, warts and all, early in someone's journey with EA because at this point they do not care about this. They are looking to see whether EA can help them have an impact.
So I don't think the "persuasive vs. informative" framing is the right one, I see CEA's strategy as meeting people where they are, and trying to do this well, which indeed means simplifying the messaging a lot, especially early on, because it is a necessary condition to being heard.
Using 'persuasion' techniques, such as relying on social proof, is usually what it takes to be heard in a crowded information environment too, of course, 'persuasive' communications increases growth.
(I don't like the persuasive framing because it doesn't convey that good communications is about providing value to people, if you provide value, you just need people to see and decide to grab it, which is different from 'persuading'.)
It seems like you are pointing out that the community, steered by CEA's stewardship, is picking the wrong side on some trade-offs, like community size vs. strength of bonds. I wonder if you also see it as a trade-off, or do you think the problems you point at could be solved by investing resources to meet people further in their EA journey.