I am an attorney in a public-sector position not associated with EA, although I cannot provide legal advice to anyone. My involvement with EA so far has been mostly limited so far to writing checks to GiveWell and other effective charities in the Global Health space, as well as some independent reading. I have occasionally read the forum and was looking for ideas for year-end giving when the whole FTX business exploded . . .
As someone who isn't deep in EA culture (at least at the time of writing), I may be able to offer a perspective on how the broader group of people with sympathies toward EA ideas might react to certain things. I'll probably make some errors that would be obvious to other people, but sometimes a fresh set of eyes can help bring a different perspective.
On the legal findings: I'm not an expert in UK employment law [. . . .]
Under section 26 of the Equality Act 2010, harassment occurs when "the conduct has the purpose or effect of—(i) violating B's dignity, or (ii) creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for B." In considering whether the conduct has such an effect, "each of the following must be taken into account—(a) the perception of B; (b) the other circumstances of the case; (c) whether it is reasonable for the conduct to have that effect."
See also section 1.28 of this guidance. So there is an objective element to the test, and relevant circumstances must be considered. So I think it is fair to infer that the external reviewer concluded that it was reasonable for Frances to conclude that the conduct violated her dignity or created an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment. I also think it is fair to infer that the external reviewer concluded that the other circumstances of the case were not inconsistent with a finding of harassment. That would be easy; there is no legitimate reason for a co-worker to be circulating a memo about another co-worker's rape or mental health.
Your post implies that CEA leadership is cowardly, indifferent, and complicit. But an organization that waived confidentiality, paid for your lawyer, never attempted to silence you, and whose CEO gave you what you yourself describe as a genuine apology is not staffed by monsters.
I submit that there is a sliding scale of moral credit for acceptance of responsibility based on timeliness (also true in the UK criminal justice system). These actions came awfully late for me to give too much credit here, especially to the extent that they came after Frances expressed that she would be going public. They could be construed as damage control -- the reputational risk of litigation in which documents would come out and those involved would have to testify under oath would dwarf the risk of an EA Forum post. Even without a confidentiality agreement, a settlement is much quieter than the alternative.
Most of what Frances characterizes as institutional failure, not telling her and not acting against Riley, is actually consistent with proper HR handling. You don't tip off the subject of a complaint and you don't retaliate against the person who filed it.
To begin with, it has not been established that Frances was the subject of the complaint. Two, raising a complaint does not give someone the right to comment on a colleague's rape or on her mental health. If Riley had concerns about Frances, those concerns were potentially valid only to the extent they related to specific work-related behaviors.
So, for instance, it would be relevant for one employee to write that another employee was producing only 50 widgets an hour instead of 60. Speculating that the employee's reduced performance was due to age, tendonitis, or sadness that they lost their dog would be unwarranted.[1] None of those things are the co-worker's business.
Employees are not entitled to write whatever they want about their co-workers and get protected status as "complainants." Especially when they have asked said co-worker out multiple times and been turned down; that raises the specter of a "complaint" as payback.[2]
Proper HR handling would have been for the first person to see the document to rip it up, tell Riley that his comments related to rape and mental health were wildly inappropriate, and tell him that if he wanted to raise concerns they needed to be strictly related to work-related behaviors.
The unanimous 500+ karma response with little critical engagement on a forum that prides itself on epistemics tells us more about this community's appetite for moral drama than about the severity of what actually occurred.
This strikes me as an unwarranted demand for rigor. We have to make decisions based on the evidence that is available. This forum does not have power to subpoena documents or depose witnesses. Here, for instance, we do have the following considerations:
What additional evidence do you think is required and reasonably attainable here?
I'm deliberately picking an example that is clearly unrelated to Frances' work tasks or Riley's statements.
I decline to speculate on Riley's motivation for writing, but I think it's fair to assert that treating all complaints as privileged from disciplinary action facilitates payback for those who would like to obtain it.
CEA may have valid reasons for not doing so, and so I don't want to score this too heavily. Yet there is no actual evidence that those reasons exist and are substantial, and I don't think blind and total deference to an organization's claim of inability is appropriate. So I am going to adjust slightly in favor of the reliability of Frances' narrative based on her willingness to engage here.
[This is more from a US perspective.]
If anyone else has experienced or is experiencing sexual harassment, disability harassment,[1] or other discriminatory harassment, I'd strongly encourage consulting an attorney early in the response process. At least in the US, many attorneys offer free consultations in this area because they can get their fees paid by the employer if they prevail in litigation or settle. Doing a consultation does not oblige the victim to pursue formal legal remedies or do anything else.
The employer's largest financial exposure is often to the victim's attorney fees, so a rational employer with a losing case has a strong incentive to provide the employee with appropriate relief early rather than drag the process out.
Also, at least in the US, there is a limited amount of time for filing equal-employment claims (often 180 days).
HR works for the company and is not neutral. The company's attorneys are obliged by the rules of professional conduct to zealously "represent[] the organization acting through its duly authorized constituents" with limited exceptions.
Of course, I understand why some victims choose not to involve legal processes, or choose to defer those processes for a while. I support whatever decision they make on this point. But I thought the comment was worth writing to ensure people knew about their options, to normalize that pursuing legal remedies early is an appropriate option, and to explain why bringing in counsel may lead to a quicker resolution.
I didn't search, and don't know UK law, but I would be very surprised if the conduct in question were not also harassment on the basis of disability (or perceived disability).
Thanks for writing.
I'm having a hard time understanding the mutual aid example, but maybe that stems from my relative lack of knowledge in that area. Wikipedia tells me that "[m]utual aid groups are distinct in their drive to flatten the hierarchy, searching for collective consensus decision-making across participating people rather than placing leadership within a closed executive team." But I expect that one of the effects of such strong decentralized/diffused governance and structure is that it would be very hard for a small group of people to have great leverage. Stated differently, I sense some tension between a focus on "scalable" and "repeatable" operations and being controlled by / responsive to the local community. I'm not suggesting that there is no value there, but I would associate scalable, repeatable operations more with top-down governance.
Against that, I think we have to weigh that the appearance and/or reality of increasing politicization would make it harder for other EA cause areas to achieve their objectives.
Another problematic element of Riley's behavior here is that he asked multiple times.
Conditional on asking out a colleague being otherwise acceptable, I submit that it is acceptable exactly once. The best potential argument against a broadly applicable no-asking norm -- that it constitutes employer interference in the highly personal decisions of two people who may both want to pursue something -- is significantly attenuated when Person B is already aware of Person A's interest and can follow up if they change their mind.
An opt-in solution might be preferable here -- such as a norm or policy against asking out colleagues with whom you have more-than-superficial contact at work [1] unless they have (e.g.) opted in on a third-party website (either generally or specifically with respect to you).
I mean to exclude cases like: there are 1,000 employees and you may see this person across the cafeteria once or twice a month.
I agree that this situation raises some serious questions about the suitability of one or more people at CEA to continue in certain roles, but ...
I suspect any response would need multiple layers of review within CEA and possibly by external legal counsel. Depending on the content, they probably should offer to run a response by Fran first. And there are likely to be some constraints on what the response can say in light of legal obligations to current and/or past employees. I think we need to consider that before drawing any adverse inferences from silence after a few days.
It's also likely that there is a tension between individual CEA leadership employees/leaders' interest in convincing the community that they are fit to serve in their roles and the institutional interests of CEA itself and/or the employee/leader's obligations to CEA. The lawyers are certainly bound by attorney-client privilege. So I'd exercise caution in drawing negative inferences against an individual employee or leader without considering that their ability to defend themselves may be compromised.
While you avoid capital gains tax when donating appreciated stock to a 501(c)(4), you will want to confirm with the organization that it will be able to avoid taxation on the capital gain as well. The 501(c)(4) takes the donor's basis in the donated stock under the general rule for gifts at I.R.C. 1015(a).
A 501(c)(4) is subject to tax under I.R.C. 527(f) on the lesser of its net investment income or
certain political activity. My understanding is that tax usually hits at 35%, and so paying it is worse than the donor paying at 15-23.8% and then donating the balance. On the other hand, I believe that organizations can get around this if they can avoid having net investment income and certain political expenditures in the same year. The org should know if it is going to have the specified type of expenditures in a year it may sell the donated, appreciated stock.
I believe this applies only to stock that has appreciated in value, right? If you have losers, you want to take the capital loss (either to offset your capital gains, or to reduce your other income by up to $3,000 with carryover available).
There's an argument for some people to buy stock to donate. Those of us who bunch their donations to maximize deductibility should probably be buying a variety of somewhat volatile stocks during our off years, donating the winners either directly or through a DAF during our giving years, and selling the losers to harvest the losses whenever appropriate. (Just remember to avoid creating a wash sale!)
If you're in the US and dropping checks in the mail today, I would not rely on the assumption that they would be postmarked today. Effective December 24, the postmark date is no longer the date on which mail is deposited with USPS (although it sounds like postmark date may not have been fully reliable even before this policy change).
Under Treasury Regulation 1.170A-1, "[t]he unconditional delivery or mailing of a check which subsequently clears in due course will constitute an effective contribution on the date of delivery or
mailing." I have usually filmed myself dropping checks into the USPS mailbox for this reason, and will do so with my wife's charitable contributions this year (mine are already done). The safer alternative, especially if large sums are involved, would be to take the mailpiece to a post office and have a manual postmark applied by the person behind the counter (or send via certified mail).
There would be some legal risk for rejecting certain kinds of complaints without any action -- such as a legally protected complaint that an employee was being subjected to harassment themselves. But there is no evidence that Riley's complaint about one or more of his co-workers fell into any legally protected category, and it is difficult for me to envision how it would be.
And even if it were necessary to maintain the original complaint on file, you redact the material that constitutes sexual and disability harassment of another employee before broader circulation. It is not "messy" to figure out what portions relate to a legally protected grounds for complaint somewhere before you expose 11 people (over 20% of the company) to the harassing content.