Thanks for the reply :) the number you cite for other insects is yearly turnover, not how many are alive at any moment, right? So the number might not be as far off?

But yeah, without looking at any data, other major farmed insects numbers are probably increasing at a faster rate than honeybees.

Holy **** this was one of those things that changed my mind just by looking at the title because I realised I was holding a belief that was clearly mistaken if you think about it logically for a second, but no one actually ever really challenged me on it. Why did I never realise that honeybees are obviously the most farmed animal on earth?

I always told people that farmed honey is terrible, but terrible in the same way as that dairy is terrible. I would have put the order of 'plz stop eating this for the love of god' at 

1. eggs & white meat
2. red meat,
3. dairy and honey 

I will bump honey up the list (50% vibes based list by the way, not calibrated on exact SAD/portion).

PS: Would have been easier if you listed '#days of farming' per 'per capita consumption' rather than per kilo. 1kg is roughly the yearly consumption per person in Europe I believe (surprisingly high?), vs 20kg for chicken. Also, the link to the 97% thing didn't work, so I couldn't really check that stat. (It seems oddly specific given uncertainty)

Thanks Björn! Really interested in the diet change interventions. Veganuary has probably also had quite a nice spillover effect through corporate engagement with the challenge (wether solicited by veganuary or not). During the month of January, supermarkets and brands tend to allocate more resources on marketing, product development and deals for plant based products. 

To me, this write-up would have been a lot more useful if it ended with a rough cost-effectiveness analysis and any takes on what funders should be excited to fund. 

Some other thoughts: I'm sceptical that every 6 extra sign ups to a challenge will get someone from an average diet to an almost plant based diet for a duration of more than 2 years. Is that what the 15% suggests? How were the RCT's performed? Were random people selected and given an incentive to participate?

AFAIK, the fact that SMA takes a different stance on 'distancing' or differentiating itself from the EA community compared to, say, Ambitious Impact, is because the reputation of EA is just really very different in the US than in Europe. A lot more toxic, that is.

If they only had plans to launch in NL, Germany and other European countries, I think they would have been a bit less careful to set up their own separate brand / community and maintain some distance. 

Nevertheless, they've generally expressed the desire to not be branded an 'ea-organisation' by people in or outside the community (stressing they take inspiration from other groups and schools of thougt too*) so I think people should respect that :) 

*Including the Nader's Raiders which I guess is also not the most uncontroversial in the US but old enough that people don't get upset about it lol

Could nets be made such that their mesh size increases when they get soaking wet?

PS: Are the insecticides also a problem? Are there biodegradable insecticides?

Can the reading times be updated for linkposts? Our previous fellowship participants said this would have helped them schedule and anticipate reading preparation.

Couldn't make it this time, but will join next time! Thanks for the article and hosting this event!!

Go ahead!

If you want we can write it together here

We can collaborate on a review here