Hi everyone! I've been reading rational fiction for a while, and it was an important part of how I found the EA community. Currently I'm working on a podcast about how rational fiction and EA interact, and came across several grants and writeups about the effects and processes that rational fiction entails (see here and here). It was also great to see the discussions about connecting EA and art through the EAGxVirtual Slack and Unconference these past weekends. I am wondering what experiences with rational fiction that people on this forum have (creating or discussing or reading), and whether people would be willing to share their stories in an audio format. In particular, what do people think about the following:
1. The learning/information-gathering impact of reading rational fiction as compared with more traditional formats of conveying information (blogs, essays, sequences).
2. Leaning on the emotional impact of forms like stories, artwork, other expressive modes for promoting doing the most good (as opposed to reasoning about what does the most good and leaving instinctual emotions out).
3. Effects of rational fiction on interpersonal interactions? It seems to me that a lot of fiction in general is character-driven, so I am curious as to how your experiences with others, whether EA or not, have been affected by rational fic.
Feel free to answer all or none of these, or just give general thoughts. Again, I would love to compile some audio for this project, so please reach out if you would be willing to share your story in that way.
The biggest effect of rational fiction for me was feeling the “warm” glow of the ingroup in the fiction I consumed. I could empathize with the characters. I think this kind of effect is inherently good, as feeling like you’re a minority with no culture is bad and encourages homogenization.
I was already a “rationalist” before reading rational fiction, and the fiction works have always struck me as much weaker than the content on our forums. On using them to “convert” other people to rationality … Well one of my friends really took to HPMOR, and they did have a high point of vowing “to always be a scientist,” but it didn’t have any observable effect and they didn’t even finish reading HPMOR. HPMOR is also probably the most educational of all the current stories.
I definitely think the more broad appeal of fiction does make it worthwhile as an outreach effort (though it needs to be explicitly educational. Mother of Learning, for all its good writing, doesn’t teach how to think better.). The concepts touched in the fictional works (that I remember) were all very low-inferential distance from the common culture, so they were confined to beginner concepts without an in-depth overview. For example, the Frozen fanfic by Wales touches on AI safety and effective altruism, and is fun and beautiful, but I did not learn anything from it.
As you say, fiction teaches less concepts and teaches them less well. I do think it might teach more memorably though.