Providing these numbers puts things into perspective.Â
The goal of this post was initially to suggest impactful actions for people already interested in the environment. However, you are definitely right to offer a comparison with other cause areas. This is very useful information for people who are cause-agnostic.
The effects were not accounted for in our post. From what I have seen, the effects on wild animals are very complicated to estimate. Right now, we are not even certain whether their lives contain more suffering or happiness. Organisations working on the topic are still doing research to really understand how to evaluate animal welfare while looking at the global ecosystem.Â
The effects of climate change lead to difficult-to-estimate consequences because extreme events and changes tend to favour smaller adaptative animals, which reproduce very quickly, rather than larger animals like big mammals, leading to large changes in population dynamics.Â
More research is needed on that front: supporting research on wild animals is a viable option in this context.Â
This is a very thoughtful comment, which I appreciate. Such cultural shifts aren't taken enough into account usually.Â
That said, I agree with @Holly_Elmore comment, that this approach is more risky if artificial sentience has overall negative lives - something we really don't have enough good information on.Â
Once powerful AIs are widely used everywhere, it will be much harder to backtrack if it turns out that they don't have good lives (same for factory farming today).
What we gathered so far is that several scientific papers mention this topic, as well as several large members of the industry itself, which consider it to be important, although there is limited data to inform with a high degree of certainty how to properly inform adequate decision-making on this topic.Â
For this reason, and since we have limited expertise on this topic, this is currently beyond what we will write about.
This is a useful complement, thanks!Â
Providing these numbers puts things into perspective.Â
The goal of this post was initially to suggest impactful actions for people already interested in the environment. However, you are definitely right to offer a comparison with other cause areas. This is very useful information for people who are cause-agnostic.
Hello, good question!Â
The effects were not accounted for in our post. From what I have seen, the effects on wild animals are very complicated to estimate. Right now, we are not even certain whether their lives contain more suffering or happiness. Organisations working on the topic are still doing research to really understand how to evaluate animal welfare while looking at the global ecosystem.Â
The effects of climate change lead to difficult-to-estimate consequences because extreme events and changes tend to favour smaller adaptative animals, which reproduce very quickly, rather than larger animals like big mammals, leading to large changes in population dynamics.Â
More research is needed on that front: supporting research on wild animals is a viable option in this context.Â
This is a very thoughtful comment, which I appreciate. Such cultural shifts aren't taken enough into account usually.Â
That said, I agree with @Holly_Elmore comment, that this approach is more risky if artificial sentience has overall negative lives - something we really don't have enough good information on.Â
Once powerful AIs are widely used everywhere, it will be much harder to backtrack if it turns out that they don't have good lives (same for factory farming today).
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It's nice to have a place to train to get better at communicating.
What we gathered so far is that several scientific papers mention this topic, as well as several large members of the industry itself, which consider it to be important, although there is limited data to inform with a high degree of certainty how to properly inform adequate decision-making on this topic.Â
For this reason, and since we have limited expertise on this topic, this is currently beyond what we will write about.
Thanks a lot!
Thank you again for everything!