Thanks for your post! It was interesting and I'm curious to learn more.
Naturally, if EigenKarma was used by everyone, which we are not aiming for, a lot of people would coalesce around charismatic leaders too. But to the extent that happens, these dysfunctional bubbles are isolated from the more well-functioning parts of the trust graph
My main worry reading this post was that EigenKarma might create social bubbles and group-think. Not just in a few isolated cases of charismatic leaders you mention, but more generally too. For example, a lot of social networks that have content curation based on people you already follow seem to have that dynamic (I'm unsure how big a problem this really is – but it gets mentioned a lot).
E.g. If I identify with Red Tribe and upvote Red Tribe, I will increasingly see other posts upvoted by Red Tribe (and not Blue Tribe). That would make it harder to learn new information or have my priors challenged.
How is EigenKarma different from social networks that use curation algorithms based on people's previous likes and follows? Is this an issue in practice and if so how would you try to mitigate it?
[These are intended as genuine questions to check whether I am reading your post correctly :)]
Hi @Hamish Doodle. My post cited here with regards to "If you got money from FTX, do you have to give it back?" and "If you got money from FTX, should you spend it?" was intended to inform people about not spending FTX money (if possible) until Molly's announced EA forum post. She has now posted it here.
Could you please add/link that source? I believe the takeaway is simillar but it's a much more informative post. The key section is:
Essentially, if you received money from an FTX entity in the debtor group anytime on or after approximately August 11, 2022, the bankruptcy process will probably ask you, at some point, to pay all or part of that money back. It’s almost impossible to say right now whether any specific grant or contract will be subject to clawback – there just isn’t enough information on the court docket – and if your transaction is captured, you will eventually receive formal notice from the bankruptcy court and will have an opportunity to raise a defense, negotiate a settlement, or litigate. You can read a legal explainer about preference claims here.
Thanks for your post! It was interesting and I'm curious to learn more.
My main worry reading this post was that EigenKarma might create social bubbles and group-think. Not just in a few isolated cases of charismatic leaders you mention, but more generally too. For example, a lot of social networks that have content curation based on people you already follow seem to have that dynamic (I'm unsure how big a problem this really is – but it gets mentioned a lot).
E.g. If I identify with Red Tribe and upvote Red Tribe, I will increasingly see other posts upvoted by Red Tribe (and not Blue Tribe). That would make it harder to learn new information or have my priors challenged.
How is EigenKarma different from social networks that use curation algorithms based on people's previous likes and follows? Is this an issue in practice and if so how would you try to mitigate it?
[These are intended as genuine questions to check whether I am reading your post correctly :)]
Hi @Hamish Doodle. My post cited here with regards to "If you got money from FTX, do you have to give it back?" and "If you got money from FTX, should you spend it?" was intended to inform people about not spending FTX money (if possible) until Molly's announced EA forum post. She has now posted it here.
Could you please add/link that source? I believe the takeaway is simillar but it's a much more informative post. The key section is:
Thanks so much for you work! I have updated my post with a link to it :)