Hi, thanks for putting together a serious attempt to measure the effect of EAGx conferences.
Whilst I am highly supportive of your attempts to do this, I wanted to ask about your methodology. You are attempting a difference in differences, with a control and treatment group, but immediately state: ‘In the data from the initial collection period (‘before’), the control group and treatment groups showed several significant differences.’
To my knowledge this effectively means you no longer have a suitable control and treatment groups and makes a difference in differences ill-advised?
Very happy to be wrong here! But whilst you made some attempts to find a control and treatment group, your initial analysis of the two groups suggests you are comparing apples to oranges?
Control and treatment groups can have some differences, but critically we want the parallel trends assumption to hold. From your descriptive analysis of the two groups this is unlikely to be true. Would you agree that your control group and treatment group would have gone on to engage with EA in different ways if the conference had never happened? I’d say so, given that you demonstrate they are rather different groups of people!
If I’m right - I may not be - This still leaves room for analysing the effects on conference attendance on attendees behaviour, but just losing the control and using differing methodology. I hope I’m wrong - but I think this means that we can't use this part of your results.
I wanted to question the €1000 per month for the internships? (Note I appreciate the forum poster isn’t responsible) To me this amount seems exploitative and I’d like to know the The School of Moral Ambition’s reasoning behind this.
These internships are 6-12 months long, based in Amsterdam - which is an expensive place to live. From the government’s own website, minimum wage for 21+ is €2,317.83 per month, and the €1000 offered will barely cover living costs.
I recognise that the organisation's ambitions are good and that internships offering this amount are not infrequent in the Netherlands. However, I don’t think this provides an excuse.
This is not an internship at the IMF or an investment bank, where the role has a large value in future employment. These are roles in operations and event management.
This pay level encourages elitism within EA - most people who take this job will need support from family or reliance on savings. Those from a low income background are heavily penalised given the wage is much lower than minimum wage.
More importantly, even if this behaviour is acceptable in other industries, we should ask if this is how we, the EA community, want to treat our young talent. In my eyes, we can do a lot better.
Hi, I am hoping to politely contest part of your third point - I believe it contains a factually incorrect claim.
‘And i would just like to say that herbivores themselves eat small amounts of meat from time to time, and so if herbivores, which evolved to get the absolute most out of plants, need to eat meat sometimes, what will that say about transitioning carnivores to meat?
You are correct that some larger herbivores do sometimes eat smaller animals, but this occurs rarely and to my knowledge only in an opportunistic fashion. However a) this is not a common behaviour and b) it is in no shape or form essential for a herbivore's well-being.
Herbivores have evolved an amazing digestive tract to acquire all their needs from plant matter. Opportunistic carnivorous behaviour is simply an advantageous behaviour for getting a bit of extra protein and nutrients, not a requirement for a healthy life. For instance, a wild ruminant may acquire a small, but useful survival advantage by munching on some ground laying bird’s eggs or even their live chicks when the ruminant happens to encounter them. But as I've mentioned this is not essential, nor particularly common. The ruminant can acquire all their nutritional needs through plant matter - their specialised anatomy, bacteria in their digestive tracts and well evolved metabolic pathways enabling them to do so.
Your claim applies even less so for herbivorous pets because humans can (and should!) ensure their pet’s diet contains everything they need for good wellbeing. Although, sadly I accept that many pet owners fail to do this.
Hi, thanks for putting together a serious attempt to measure the effect of EAGx conferences.
Whilst I am highly supportive of your attempts to do this, I wanted to ask about your methodology. You are attempting a difference in differences, with a control and treatment group, but immediately state: ‘In the data from the initial collection period (‘before’), the control group and treatment groups showed several significant differences.’
To my knowledge this effectively means you no longer have a suitable control and treatment groups and makes a difference in differences ill-advised?
Very happy to be wrong here! But whilst you made some attempts to find a control and treatment group, your initial analysis of the two groups suggests you are comparing apples to oranges?
Control and treatment groups can have some differences, but critically we want the parallel trends assumption to hold. From your descriptive analysis of the two groups this is unlikely to be true. Would you agree that your control group and treatment group would have gone on to engage with EA in different ways if the conference had never happened? I’d say so, given that you demonstrate they are rather different groups of people!
If I’m right - I may not be - This still leaves room for analysing the effects on conference attendance on attendees behaviour, but just losing the control and using differing methodology. I hope I’m wrong - but I think this means that we can't use this part of your results.
I wanted to question the €1000 per month for the internships? (Note I appreciate the forum poster isn’t responsible) To me this amount seems exploitative and I’d like to know the The School of Moral Ambition’s reasoning behind this.
These internships are 6-12 months long, based in Amsterdam - which is an expensive place to live. From the government’s own website, minimum wage for 21+ is €2,317.83 per month, and the €1000 offered will barely cover living costs.
I recognise that the organisation's ambitions are good and that internships offering this amount are not infrequent in the Netherlands. However, I don’t think this provides an excuse.
This is not an internship at the IMF or an investment bank, where the role has a large value in future employment. These are roles in operations and event management.
This pay level encourages elitism within EA - most people who take this job will need support from family or reliance on savings. Those from a low income background are heavily penalised given the wage is much lower than minimum wage.
More importantly, even if this behaviour is acceptable in other industries, we should ask if this is how we, the EA community, want to treat our young talent. In my eyes, we can do a lot better.
Hi, I am hoping to politely contest part of your third point - I believe it contains a factually incorrect claim.
You are correct that some larger herbivores do sometimes eat smaller animals, but this occurs rarely and to my knowledge only in an opportunistic fashion. However a) this is not a common behaviour and b) it is in no shape or form essential for a herbivore's well-being.
Herbivores have evolved an amazing digestive tract to acquire all their needs from plant matter. Opportunistic carnivorous behaviour is simply an advantageous behaviour for getting a bit of extra protein and nutrients, not a requirement for a healthy life. For instance, a wild ruminant may acquire a small, but useful survival advantage by munching on some ground laying bird’s eggs or even their live chicks when the ruminant happens to encounter them. But as I've mentioned this is not essential, nor particularly common. The ruminant can acquire all their nutritional needs through plant matter - their specialised anatomy, bacteria in their digestive tracts and well evolved metabolic pathways enabling them to do so.
Your claim applies even less so for herbivorous pets because humans can (and should!) ensure their pet’s diet contains everything they need for good wellbeing. Although, sadly I accept that many pet owners fail to do this.