The following is a quick collection of forecasting markets and opinions from experts which give some sense of how well-informed people are thinking about the state of US democracy. This isn't meant to be a rigorous proof that democracy is under threat (DM me for that), just a collection which I hope will get people thinking about what's happening in the US now.
Before looking at the forecasts you might first ask yourself:
- What probability would I put on authoritarian capture?, and
- At what probability of authoritarian capture would I think that more concern and effort is warranted?
Forecasts
Disclaimer: Many of these markets don't have ideal resolution criteria. Also, as a commenter pointed out, some of these markets may suffer from biases. More effort to improve forecasting on this front would be very useful! All forecast numbers are as of Oct 8th, 2025.
- The US won’t be a democracy by 2030: 25% - Metaculus
- Trump in power beyond 2028: 3% - Metaculus
- Trump wins election in 2028: 3% - Polymarket
- If Trump is elected, will the US still be a liberal democracy at the end of his term? (V-DEM): 61% - Manifold
- Will Trump seriously attempt a 3rd term in 2028?: 15% - Manifold
- If Trump were elected in 2024, will Trump attempt to run for a third term in 2028 or 2032?: 25% - Manifold
- Will Trump 2.0 be the end of Democracy as we know it?: 48% - Manifold
- Metaculus, Civil War before 2031: 4%
- Will there be a civil war in the United States before 2030?: 13% - Manifold
Quotes from experts & commentators
- Steven Levitsky, (author of “How Democracies Die” and “Competitive Authoritarianism.”) “Honest to god, I’ve never seen anything like it. We look at these comparative cases in the 21st century, like Hungary and Poland and Turkey. In a lot of respects, this is worse. These first two months have been much more aggressively authoritarian than almost any other comparable case I know of democratic backsliding.”
- Matt Yglesias: “I think this could end with blood on the streets, Donald Trump is a dictator.”
- Another, doomier, quote: “There is literally no set of tactics which the democratic party can undertake now that will prevent Donald Trump from consolidating a dictatorial grasp on the United States of America.” (The context being that we need to prioritize Republican persuasion over shaming Democrats).
- Mark Milley (Trump’s Former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs): “[Trump is] fascist to the core" and "the most dangerous person to this country".
- Ezra Klein: “Authoritarianism is here, it’s just unevenly distributed” & “It seems pretty clear there’s an authoritarian takeover going on.”
- Fukuyama: “With the rise of Donald Trump, we've managed to elect, I think, a genuinely authoritarian president, who is in the process of dismantling the whole American constitutional order."
Some relevant research[1]
- Things are happening fast: "Trump has pursued his agenda with a speed that outpaces even some of the most rapid cases of democratic erosion, like Hungary and Poland." The US could become “fastest autocratizing country in contemporary history without a coup.” (Carnegie Endowment)
- About 30%[2] of recent autocratization episodes result in stable authoritarian regimes. V-Dem analysis found that 73% of autocratization episodes since the mid-1990s were reversed through U-Turns - two-directional regime transformations where democratization follows autocratization.
- Autocratization follows a pattern— attack media and civil society first, polarize through disinformation, then undermine institutions. Media/expression restrictions are the earliest warning signs.
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Note I haven't done a thorough analysis on whether these are the best studies on this topic, please do critique them!
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Note that this previously said 70% of backsliding cases ended with full autocratization. I got these numbers from someone billed as an expert and, to my shame, didn't check them until after posting.
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Many of these markets don't have ideal resolution criteria and there are tons of important questions which aren't currently being forecasted. More effort on this front could be very useful!
Before I quit, I was the #1 trader on Manifold. Those markets listed on the forecasting section are very biased, suffer from issues relating to long term markets, have resolution criteria that are very different from the natural understanding of those questions and have several other flaws. Using them to suggest anything like the odds presented is very misleading.
Thanks for pointing this out, I have a vague sense that Manifold markets can be non-ideal but don't really know why or what these biases you're talking about might be. I added a few more questions from other markets to compensate a bit + moved my disclaimer from the footnotes to the top of the section. These are still among the only public forecasts with actual numbers I know of, so seems better than nothing, right?
Also, fwiw, some well-informed people I know (who's estimates I can't share) have estimates quite similar to these prediction markets.
For long term markets, there is a well known interest rate/opportunity cost problem, which prevent markets that have a low (or high) probability from getting priced correctly. Furthermore, the resolution crtieria for many of these markets are extremely subjective and involve an author claiming that "democracy is over as we know it" when potentially common things would count here.
The V-dem Metaculus market shows a clean time-series bump following recent Trump events https://www.metaculus.com/questions/14141/us-continuously-a-liberal-democracy/
This market, and metaculus in general, doesn't have anywhere near the same frequency of market quality problems as Manifold. For readers, I'd advise against dismissing the OP's headline concerns as some manifold measurement error (though those are also real enough and I agree with the specific claims made by Marcus).
Marcus, ton of respect for your open-mindedness and prediction ability. Sort of parroting Lintz here but if you have the time, I would greatly appreciate if you could give some insight on how to improve the questions.
I understand that questions pertaining to 2028 and maybe even midterms suffer from long term market issues. So maybe we could create a chain of conditional markets? or at least some intermediate steps that we think are proxies and have a reasonable chance of occurring in the next few months?
Additionally, would you say you have updated your views since this comment chain?
Hi Charlie, for improvements for long-term markets, I dont have great ideas other than large loans/leverage for betting on these questions and giving skilled political forecasters a lot of money to bet on them.
For resolution criteria, I would suggest a market on trump being president on March 1 2029 without a constitutional amendment. I expect the odds for this to be below 5% (well, interest rate problem). I think the constitutional amendment part is critical here. I dont think its undemocratic for Trump to be elected for a 3rd term, so long as proper procedures are followed here and he wins the election fairly.
Other markets i would suggest would be on imprisonment/murder of political opponents and judges. I would suggest markets like "will at least 4 of the following 10 people be imprisoned or murdered by Dec 31 2028", etc.
As for my views since the comment chain, my median scenario is worse than it was back then but also my worst ~2.5% scenarios aren't as bad as they were back then. That is to say, I think things are going badly, worse than I thought they would at the start of the presidency/on election night but also it's not going as badly as my worst case scenarios (which were really bad).
I want to be clear, I'm extremely unhappy with the Trump presidency thus far. It's been awful and I feel for many groups of people who have been negatively affected (including Americans and non-Americans, USAID recipients, undocumented workers, tranns people and more). Ive been sad to see many developments and actions of the Trump administration. I also think there are non-authoritarian/dictatorship scenarios I consider to be quite bad. I think the Trump presidency is noticeably worse, on many dimensions than other administrations, especially on things like respecting norms, rhetoric, honesty, and willingness to go after political opponents/other branches of government. That said, im not seeing the kind of things others talk about in terms of being a couple steps before dictatorship.
"I dont think its undemocratic for Trump to be elected for a 3rd term, so long as proper procedures are followed here and he wins the election fairly."
I can kind of see where you are coming from. I would invite you to consider that sometimes even that sort of thing could be bullshit / tyranny cf. the Enabling Act of 1933.
Also, for resolution criteria:
"Other markets i would suggest would be on imprisonment/murder of political opponents and judges. I would suggest markets like "will at least 4 of the following 10 people be imprisoned or murdered by Dec 31 2028", etc."
Do you think specific targets would generally have been easy enough to call in advance for other autocracies / self coups? That seems non-obvious to me?
Conditional markets compound long term issues (assuming they're collateralized): instead of locking capital into a market, that's locking capital into hoping there's a market
Prediction markets can increase capital efficiency by:
* pegging interest rates (like adjustable-rate mortgages)
* recognizing hedged positions[1][2]
More reasons for cautious interpretations:
Manifold:
* 'mana is purely a play-money and not exchangeable for sweepcash, money, or any other goods and items'
Polymarket:
* orderbook's actually 2.5% which the interface rounds up to 3%
* Polymarket offers 4% variable interest on that (Kalshi went from 4.05% to 3.75% this year)
Metaculus:
* 500 deaths is closer to previous US standoffs than the US Civil War
* Only question of those >3% as of writing only has 33 forecasters
* All the histograms have odd tails (somewhat dampened by Metaculus reporting medians):
There's advantages to play money, such as that players don't care as much about the time value of money (it's also much easier to start and resolve markets, leading to many more markets)
leads to lower signal-to-noise ratio
and heeding time-value still leads to more (play) capital / pricing power
Couple of thoughts, kinda long and rambly
This gets discussed occasionally on the Manifold Discord and I wanted to share some skeptical points that one of the top forecasters (Semiotic Rivalry) made there:
This was largely in response to me saying that I find it hard to think through Trump/MAGA military (self-)coup possibilities. Because although military self-coups appear to be rare in consolidated or backsliding democracies, they're not entirely unheard of, and it sure seems like Hegseth, Trump, etc. are working towards this. They are systematically dismantling military guardrails:
The general pattern of purging appears to be that Trump/the administration gives an illegal/norm-breaking order which functions as a loyalty test: it forces everyone involved to either comply, step down, or refuse to obey (which tends to get you fired - something that the Supreme Court hasn't been adequately protecting besides the Fed).
The coup form I expect, if it happens, would not be a direct command to military generals, but to order his most loyal militarized groups (e.g. red states National Guard, ICE) to take control of the democratic/election process. Opposing military would then have to coordinate on action, which would be very difficult. The general population could resist en masse (South Korea 2024-style), but so far protests have been small, and in the US there's a vocal and dangerous base supporting Trump. That said, base rates suggest a coup is still very unlikely, and coups are difficult. I don't know what probability I would give it, I'm mainly trying to understand the mechanisms here.
Other thoughts:
Your comment above is the most informative thing I've read so far on the likelihood of the end of democracy in America. I especially appreciate the mix of key evidence pointing in both directions.
I also think folks should carefully consider the disutility of autocracy by Trump/MAGA in particular. I updated my estimate of the disutility upward heavily after the destruction of USAID, which I don't see being restored under a MAGA autocracy.
Metaculus here. I'll put in a plug for our US Democracy Index, developed with watchdog group Bright Line Watch (Dartmouth & U of Chicago). The index aggregates 39 indicators across electoral integrity, rule of law, civil liberties, institutional checks, etc.
(Let me know if this is spamming) Non-US EA hubs might be interested in especially US talent considering moving out of the US - small, imperfect poll here: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/mEXfYXDFEhsEPy5yN/poll-have-your-views-on-moving-abroad-changed-in-the-last-12
Interesting! Hadn't read this newsletter yet. Excerpting the text here: "It remains a good idea for readers concerned about tail risks to consider getting a residency permit, or a passport, in countries such as Mexico, Panama, Paraguay, Uruguay, etc., in case the political climate in the US becomes more turbulent."
You might also be interested in this brief
Do you have any new thoughts on the probabilities/timelines of when he is going to invoke the insurrection act?