I totally understand the thinking here and agree it makes sense when you look at it at the individual level. But if you zoom out, the upshot of a community so focused on nitpicks like this is that people leading EA orgs are nervous to say anything about their orgs or work. This leads to research being under distributed, fellowships and courses being under subscribed, ideas largely staying within the community, etc.
EA orgs aren't going to get better at this work without making some attempts, and right now the incentives are so stacked against trying (because of the nitpick culture) that it's systematically neglected. I think BlueDot deserves a lot of credit for being willing to try new things.
I think it's counterproductive to criticize organizations that are beginning to do more marketing/outreach. This type of criticism reinforces EA norms that it's good to build something, but not good to promote or talk about it. Those norms are a contributing factor to EA being so behind on this type of work.
We should be celebrating organizations that are making an effort on this and encouraging others to do more.
It can be really hard to internalize this but I thought it might be worth a quick reminder that your value as a person has nothing to do with how much impact you have. You are clearly an incredible person trying hard to live a good life and you deserve all the happiness in the world for it!
Hi there - I wanted to offer to be another person for you to talk to if you've already spoken to all the other nice people that have left comments. I'm no expert, but I will listen! (You can message me on here)
I totally understand the thinking here and agree it makes sense when you look at it at the individual level. But if you zoom out, the upshot of a community so focused on nitpicks like this is that people leading EA orgs are nervous to say anything about their orgs or work. This leads to research being under distributed, fellowships and courses being under subscribed, ideas largely staying within the community, etc.
EA orgs aren't going to get better at this work without making some attempts, and right now the incentives are so stacked against trying (because of the nitpick culture) that it's systematically neglected. I think BlueDot deserves a lot of credit for being willing to try new things.
I think it's counterproductive to criticize organizations that are beginning to do more marketing/outreach. This type of criticism reinforces EA norms that it's good to build something, but not good to promote or talk about it. Those norms are a contributing factor to EA being so behind on this type of work.
We should be celebrating organizations that are making an effort on this and encouraging others to do more.
AMF
It can be really hard to internalize this but I thought it might be worth a quick reminder that your value as a person has nothing to do with how much impact you have. You are clearly an incredible person trying hard to live a good life and you deserve all the happiness in the world for it!
I'd be curious to see this as well
Great, thanks so much!
Just a quick thank you to the FTX team for working so hard at such a difficult task!
Hi there - I wanted to offer to be another person for you to talk to if you've already spoken to all the other nice people that have left comments. I'm no expert, but I will listen! (You can message me on here)
100% agree!
$4 per graduated EA fellow is absolutely incredible!
If anyone knows someone at CEA who would be interested in hearing about this please reach out.