It's a confusing landscape for people who want to write about dietary change right now.
EA hasn’t given up on dietary change.
Yet
Funding and incubators are springing up around approaches that seem compatible with continued factory farming.
That’s only because
Everyday advocates for dietary change aren’t speaking up enough.
But
If they do, they’d best avoid the ‘vegan echo chamber’
Since
Vegans should be more inclusive of people who aren’t changing their diets.
Even though
EA is still positive about dietary change overall, despite the fact that dietary change has been deprioritised by the biggest (?) funder in the space for not being evidence-based.
… It’s hard to strike a balance that doesn’t knock into any of the above while still making a coherent point.
Also, I was at EAG NYC too and, of the 20 or so random ‘what brings you to EAG?’ conversations I had between meetings, not a single person I spoke to was there for animals. Almost all of them were there to ‘find my place in AI safety’, with one person working on GHD. So that’s my tuppence worth on who seemed to be attending.
Wish I could be more positive, but I think the messaging around veganism has done too much of a U-turn, and it’s going to be hard now to separate that from the perceived view of the movement towards dietary change, since the two are so closely related.
Thanks for posting about this; I hadn't heard about it. I chuckled at 'nothing ever happens' and realised how much weight I'm guilty of putting on that when deciding how much to worry about things like this.
But also, it apparently has a short incubation period of 1-3 days. I reckon if 200 close contacts were exposed and there are still no secondary symptomatic cases in a week from now, then we can be at ease on this particular GCR.
Happy birthday! As a present, here are a few thoughts I’d love your take on:
7. Efficiency still matters to producers even as societies get richer. If cultivated meat can deliver the same product more cheaply, lower prices and/or higher margins are still powerful competitive advantages over slaughter meat.
23. Yes - and I wonder whether directly funding things like wildlife rehabilitation could outperform some current WAW research, which seems several steps removed from actually helping animals. Is there a funding level or time horizon at which you’d want to see the field shift more heavily from research/field-building toward interventions?
34. Shouldn’t we focus disproportionately on the shots most likely to score? Presumably the portfolio shouldn’t be evenly spread if some approaches look more promising than others.
If he switched to criticising the rescuers, while citing others who’d made the same criticism recently, I’d ask what additional value that repetition was adding, too.
Great initiative! I expect you’ll be hiring next month for a Chief of Staffing, followed every three months thereafter by a Director of Directing.
It's a confusing landscape for people who want to write about dietary change right now.
EA hasn’t given up on dietary change.
Yet
Funding and incubators are springing up around approaches that seem compatible with continued factory farming.
That’s only because
Everyday advocates for dietary change aren’t speaking up enough.
But
If they do, they’d best avoid the ‘vegan echo chamber’
Since
Vegans should be more inclusive of people who aren’t changing their diets.
Even though
EA is still positive about dietary change overall, despite the fact that dietary change has been deprioritised by the biggest (?) funder in the space for not being evidence-based.
… It’s hard to strike a balance that doesn’t knock into any of the above while still making a coherent point.
Also, I was at EAG NYC too and, of the 20 or so random ‘what brings you to EAG?’ conversations I had between meetings, not a single person I spoke to was there for animals. Almost all of them were there to ‘find my place in AI safety’, with one person working on GHD. So that’s my tuppence worth on who seemed to be attending.
Wish I could be more positive, but I think the messaging around veganism has done too much of a U-turn, and it’s going to be hard now to separate that from the perceived view of the movement towards dietary change, since the two are so closely related.
I hope those measures are precautionary only. If there is a cover-up, it doesn’t seem to be going well.
Thanks for posting about this; I hadn't heard about it. I chuckled at 'nothing ever happens' and realised how much weight I'm guilty of putting on that when deciding how much to worry about things like this.
But also, it apparently has a short incubation period of 1-3 days. I reckon if 200 close contacts were exposed and there are still no secondary symptomatic cases in a week from now, then we can be at ease on this particular GCR.
Happy birthday! As a present, here are a few thoughts I’d love your take on:
7. Efficiency still matters to producers even as societies get richer. If cultivated meat can deliver the same product more cheaply, lower prices and/or higher margins are still powerful competitive advantages over slaughter meat.
23. Yes - and I wonder whether directly funding things like wildlife rehabilitation could outperform some current WAW research, which seems several steps removed from actually helping animals. Is there a funding level or time horizon at which you’d want to see the field shift more heavily from research/field-building toward interventions?
34. Shouldn’t we focus disproportionately on the shots most likely to score? Presumably the portfolio shouldn’t be evenly spread if some approaches look more promising than others.
72% end up in a serious relationship within six months... with each other/another date from Settled? If so, that's remarkable!
If he switched to criticising the rescuers, while citing others who’d made the same criticism recently, I’d ask what additional value that repetition was adding, too.
I think this point has been made repeatedly and I'm not sure what there is to gain by dunking on vegans any further.
The reason is that eligible charity-owned businesses in Australia don't pay corporation tax. There's a 'why Australia?' section in the FAQ's here.
Super interesting, thank you! I had 0 conflicts, 1 bullet, which was accepting the repugnant conclusion that Z is better than A.