Here’s Holden Karnofsky:
I tend to think it’s worse than 51/49. I tend to think we’re always going to be prone to overestimate how robustly good our actions are. And the more we learn about all the galaxy-brained considerations that one should have had in one’s head, the more it’s going to be like 50+ε%. I think AI safety is a great cause to work in. I’m excited to work in it. I think it’s high impact. I am doing my best to do things that I will be proud to have done and hope for the best. But I really do have to live with the possibility that my ultimate impact on the utilons or whatever is going to be negative.
I’m not aware of a good list of downside risks for AI safety broadly, so I decided to make one.
This is not intended to be fully comprehensive, these are just the ones that I personally take seriously:
- AI governance interventions are obviously high-variance: bad regulation can easily make things worse, many interventions could increase the risk of great power conflict, increased political polarization around AI could be really bad, more centralization of power increases authoritarianism risk, more decentralization of power increases misuse risk, and so on. And technical work can have flow-through effects on these variables that outweigh its direct effects.
- Activist work can polarize people against the cause.
- Human takeover might be worse than AI takeover, and many AI safety interventions effectively attempt to make human takeover more likely relative to AI takeover.
- If powerful AI will be well-described as doing humanlike roleplaying, trying to control it could make it eventually dislike its “oppressors”, or make it less “mentally healthy” in some way. And even without that assumption, AI safety work could lead to an adversarial relationship with AI in other ways.
- Future AIs may be moral patients themselves, which would substantially reduce the value of preventing human extinction, and increase the downside risk (including S-risk) of “AI control”-style interventions.
- Misleading or insufficiently useful work could contribute to “safety-washing” or a false sense of security.
- There’s cultural concerns around scale, professionalization and “mainstreaming” - decreases in integrity and epistemic virtue could be very bad for achieving good outcomes.
- Capabilities externalities (directly through technical work, or via talent pipelines, funding, or raising awareness) could accelerate AI progress, which many think is bad - people have raised this worry about RLHF historically, and raise it about interpretability and evals nowadays. Most infamously, AI safety activity, to varying extents, contributed to the foundings of all three of DeepMind, OpenAI and Anthropic.
(This list is taken from a previous post of mine, but I thought it deserved its own top-level reference.)
Future life may turn out to be net negative (e.g. s-risks might become real), and work that preserves the chances of humanity spreading may essentially be enabling that.
In almost the opposite direction, AI might just be very useful and beneficial and a bunch of the risks people in AI safety worry about might not end up becoming real, or might be quite easy to overcome. And in the meantime, AI safety work may have:
On your first sentence, not sure if you read footnote 3 - I believe I cover under the "value of the future" bullet point why I didn't include this. (combined with AIs probably being moral patients).
And your three bullet points, very briefly:
I hadn't read footnote 3! And I agree that the 2nd list looks less important from a solely longtermist perspective. (They may still be reasons that AI safety ends up doing significant harm though; I hadn't realised you were taking a 'strong longtermist' stance in the post.)
Ah yeah, maybe I should have made that clear, sorry. The original post that the list came from did, and I didn't think of that when I just copied the list over.