Crossposted from the Fieldbuilder's Blog
My current Generator Project on Routing Mid-Senior (Ops) Talent to High Impact Roles in AIS took shape properly ~3 weeks ago and I want to sketch out some initial findings and hypotheses that I can continue to work on as I proceed.
The Theory of Change was to help AIS orgs scale and generally have more capacity/ function better to have more of an impact and generally mature the field by filling senior ops roles which have historically had a hard time getting filled. The specific mechanism was initially to talk to a bunch of promising senior ops people who are AI Safety curious and match them to roles they are best suited for to ease some of the difficulties in hiring.
However, as I go deeper into the project, I am inclined to think not only about the supply side of talent, but to focus more on the demand side in how we hire and what for.
Overall, I feel optimistic about the mid-senior bottleneck being pretty tractable to fix and like I have found some good low hanging fruit in this area. I would be keen for this work to extend past my efforts alone!
Hiring Managers should fill in my form with roles I may not be aware of so I can send you referrals.
Mid-Senior Talent should fill in my form to add themselves to my process so I can reach out to you.
People with Referrals should fill in my form to refer mid-senior people to my process so I can reach out to them.
Fieldbuilders should reach out if they want to chat about my work and have ideas for how they could help/ get involved.
Talking to many hiring managers and leaders across the field, a few priors about mid-senior talent seemed to creep up that inform the organisation’s strategy:
I knew the field had struggled to hire mid-senior ops people for a while, some of the key results from a rough investigation I ran in Mid-July:
From this early investigation, I began to suspect that senior ops people interested in AI Safety are just especially rare. I was guessing this is a compounding effect of AIS not having strong talent pipelines for ops/ generalists AND AIS leaning young with most talent efforts focused on students/ recent grads. My impression from talking to the hiring managers in these searches was that they just were not finding ~anyone who exceeded the bar either because of a lack of context, mission alignment or experience.
Null Hypothesis: we lack senior ops talent with context and mission alignment
Through the course of the project, there’s been lots of interesting data which has made me significantly update away from my hypothesis. Here are some of the most surprising findings:
1. Many senior ops people exist with (some) context AND alignment – I’ll call these people “unicorns”
2. Many of the “unicorns” fall into one of two buckets with very few of the people I’ve spoken to falling in the middle. Many also swap between buckets without consistency
Bucket 1: Rejected or never heard back at the first stage and left confused
Bucket 2: Rejected at the final stage having wasted lots of time without useful feedback
3. These people are transitioning fast and going all in!
4. These people are easy to miss in a hiring round that isn’t selecting for them
So the position I’ve been left in after talking to dozens of these quickly transitioning, committed “unicorns” is one of confusion. It seems strange to me that these people aren’t being hired. As much as I can individually try and route them, I want to figure out the systemic reasons for the disconnect of great talent applying to roles that purport to not find great talent.
Some suspected structural reasons for the disconnect:
1. There aren’t always jobs clearly suited to someone’s skillset
2. Because of the field being young, we often don’t know what we’re looking for
3. I suspect hiring/ talent strategy anchors too much on historical norms and misses out because of it
4. Mid-Senior people don’t have an “in” or someone who will vouch for them.
5. Some AI Safety people seem biased against senior folks because of bad experiences due to lack of mission alignment/ cultural fit that they extrapolate from
6. Frustratingly, lots of these candidates do well/ are silver medalists in hiring rounds and are never passed on anywhere else.
I think these points indicate overarching structural reasons that the field as a whole struggles to absorb the mid-senior talent past that talent not existing. It extends far past one or two orgs being bad at hiring and points more at many well intentioned hiring managers who haven’t noticed or haven’t been able to address these structural issues.
I plan to continue talking to more mid-senior ops people and trying to route them to roles. I also want to continue thinking about the wider structural reasons these people aren’t being absorbed and doing whatever I can to try and fix these barriers to impact.
To try and speed up hiring excellent people, I am looking in a few different directions:
I’m excited to see how much my referral efforts result in counterfactual talent being routed into the field as hiring rounds move along and more datapoints are added.
Overall, I feel optimistic about the mid-senior bottleneck being pretty tractable to fix and like I have found some good low hanging fruit in this area. I would be keen for this work to extend past my efforts alone!
How can you help:
Hiring Managers should fill in my form with roles I may not be aware of so I can send you referrals.
Mid-Senior Talent should fill in my form to add themselves to my process so I can reach out to you.
People with Referrals should fill in my form to refer mid-senior people to my process so I can reach out to them.
Fieldbuilders should reach out if they want to chat about my work and have ideas for how they could help/ get involved.
So far, I have spoken to ~100 people, made up of:
Of these, the seniority is skewed slightly younger, mainly because of the Generator Residency and my role in Leaf/ Non-Trivial:
I have ~60 more people I am working through who have reached out/ been referred and potentially more than 100 more through upcoming conferences and workshops (e.g. EAG, Longitude, Lateral, PRAXIS, etc.)
I also expect many more people to send referrals since there is a ballooning effect of people I route sending their friends/ personal networks my way, plus having other headhunting efforts from orgs like 80K, C*, SuccessIf, SteadRise, etc. sending people my way.
While it may be tempting to point to the survivorship bias in my sample, e.g. “this sample is unrepresentative of most mid-senior ops people because they’re self selected”, I would argue that the magnitude of this group alone suggests there is work to be done. Even if it is only a very small fraction of the senior-ops people in the world who could be great for AI Safety, that is still a large absolute number of people who could be absorbed, especially when the field itself is only in the low thousands of ftes.
So far, I have tracked ~300 roles across the field, currently ~200 are live with only ~110 of those being fully accessible to the public.
I have sent ~20 batches of referrals to different roles so far, totalling ~60 individual referrals, and received positive feedback on their usefulness and calibration from several hiring managers.
While few of these have materialised in offers yet (the earliest was 2 weeks ago), candidates counterfactual to me have now received offers or are medalists in rounds from Coefficient Giving, Eleos AI, BlueDot and OAISI and I expect many more successful cases in the coming weeks. I have also helped a handful transition out of unhappy jobs in AIS from orgs I won’t mention here, and got candidates into GCP’s upcoming Bio Workshop, BlueDot’s Context Week and GenStream.
A few thoughts:
a) "Rejected or never heard back at the first stage and left confused" - if someone clearly isn't good cultural fit, then identifying this at the first stage is the ideal outcome as it saves the time of both parties.
b) "Rejected at the final stage having wasted lots of time without useful feedback" - unfortunately, if someone is a bad cultural fit, then it's hard to provide feedback without coming off as rude. Additionally, it's hard to provide any feedback on this at all without making it easier for candidates to hide their lack of cultural fit.
c) "Many of the “unicorns” fall into one of two buckets with very few of the people I’ve spoken to falling in the middle. Many also swap between buckets without consistency" - Honestly, I'd take wrapping between the buckets without consistency as a red flag rather than a sign that the selectors were wrong. After all, in this case they seem to have failed both the immediate gut check and the more considered reflection of people who wanted to be open minded.
d) "It also seems like many orgs want ops people (even those on the hard ops side) to have excellent AIS knowledge and fluency, even though this is not required for the role" - I think there's a lot of benefits of having a unified organisational culture so you're all rowing in the same direction. If you hire someone who is only suited for a particular role, then you have less flexibilty in the future to promote them into other roles. You're also providing them with an implicit endorsement which may lead to them being hired into roles they'd be unsuited for in the future by other folks.
e) "A few hiring managers I’ve spoken to are very wary of hiring senior folks who haven’t come from EA/ rat circles citing individual bad experiences with such people. This feels pretty uncharitable given how many bad students there are compared to the few good students who get hired" - Is it charitable to dismiss the accounts of folks who wanted to be open minded and tried hiring such folks and then learned lessons from it? I'm not saying these hires can't work, just that the reasons for why they may not work are very subtle and I'd be much more enthuastic about your project if you were better able to steelman the opposing perspective (see also Chesterton's Fence).
f) "While it is true a bad senior hire can be more expensive than a bad junior hire, we can get far more information about the track record of senior people from their experience." - that doesn't really help if the issue is that the candidate is highly competent, but a poor cultural fit.
g) "Frustratingly, lots of these candidates do well/ are silver medalists in hiring rounds and are never passed on anywhere else" - If a candidate was just not quite good enough to land the role, you might want to pass them on. On the other hand, if a candidate is a poor culture fit, you definitely wouldn't want to pass them on.
h) "I would push these people to consider whether increased legibility of AI Safety due to recent warning shots and political salience could unlock much faster transitions that we aren’t capitalising on" - warning shots likely helps because it reduces the epistemic distance between the AIS community and the rest of the world, but I'm unsure why you think political salience would help rather than hurt. I tend to agree with Eliezer that Politics is the Mindkiller.
i) "Most of these people have done several BlueDot courses" - I've also facilitated for BlueDot. These courses do a lot of things well, but we shouldn't be expecting these courses to be fixing the problem of cultural fit. Cultural fit is the kind of thing that is hard to address with an online format. I expect BlueDot's Context Week is much more likely to be the right format for this. I also agree that local hubs are a good way of supporting this (I'm trying to do what I can at the Sydney AI Safety Space).
i) Despite everything I've said, seeing how many rounds closed without a hire suggests that we desperately need more talent and so I really do hope your project goes well, even if I think the challenge is much harder than you anticipate. Feel free to reach out if I can assist in any way.