Lately, I realized that I have been making very incorrect statements regarding deference. Most of the statements I make here seem retrospectively quite obvious, yet I have managed to have overlooked all of them. This is an attempt to reconstruct the process through which I came to certain conclusions. AGI is scary and hard to think about. But that is not a reason to throw our minds away. And I think I did discard my mind for a bit.
The general case for deferring your opinions goes something along the lines of:
The general case for first principled thinking in goes something along the lines of:
I hear the discussion of “should you defer or not defer” frequently. But what does this actually mean?
What does it mean to “form your own views”? You’re not going to independently derive AI timelines from first principles. The part that gets left out in the “think for yourself” argument is that pure first-principles thinking also fails, and often fails worse. Applied naively to complex domains, it produces conclusions that are (maybe) logically coherent and practically insane. In politics, pure first-principles reasoning gets you things like “we should select leaders by lottery” or “the most rational people should rule” — conclusions that may be logically coherent yet practically insane. Form completely independent views on AI timelines” would mean something like: ignore all existing forecasts, learn ML from scratch, build your own compute scaling model, and arrive at a number. Nobody is actually proposing this, and rightfully so.
“Defer to the experts” is equally underspecified. Which experts? Deferring to the Metaculus aggregate is pretty different than deferring to Eliezer Yudkowsky, which is pretty different than deferring to the median ML professor who hasn’t thought about timelines for more than twenty minutes. And the choice of who counts as “expert” already contains a lots of judgment. Deferring to superforecasters implicitly weights calibration and track record. Deferring to lab leaders implicitly weights inside information. Deferring to the LessWrong median (?) implicitly weights community-specific reasoning norms. There exists no neutral deferring.
One version of “just defer” that I’ve considered, only half joking, is to literally roll a die: assign each face to a different forecaster and adopt whichever timeline comes up, and plan my career accordingly.
I think one of the reasons I came to such conclusions is doing too much “meta-thinking” rather than actually thinking:
There are all of these people, definitely smarter than me, spent thousands more hours on this, and have access to better information. What are the odds I can form a view more correct than Daniel Kokotajlo or Ajeya Cotra? Seems highly unlikely. Shouldn’t I just pick the source I trust most and go with their number? But how do I figure out what sets of characteristics makes someone more probabilistically likely to be correct on this subject? There are some basic traits, such as “has actually spent significant time thinking about this” but this seems to apply to all of these people. And I don’t know how to differentiate between the non-basic traits. And surely for any of these individual dimensions, each of these individual smart people have already considered them, and have thought longer and harder than I?
The Tetlock superforecasting approach suggests something like construct your prior from a reasonable aggregate and then ask which specific inside-view considerations should push you away from that number. But why should I even do this? Surely these smart people are already doing this, and how likely can I do a better job?
So there it goes, the clock is ticking and I should roll a die.
But this is naive and incorrect. My current-revised-thoughts are as follows: Better deferring is better than worse deferring. Mindful deferring is good. Mindful deferring involves a serious amount of actually thinking about object level things. Blind deference is bad, but not for the reason of “from a high level there is a non-trivial probabilistic likelihood that I would be more correct about AGI than (smart person)”. Specific updated reasonings and resolutions include: