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CEA Community Events Retrospective

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I found this moving and enlightening, thanks for sharing. Looking forward to the series!

  • EAGx undergraduate acceptance rate across 2024 and 2025 = ~82%
  • EAGx first-timer undergraduate acceptance rate across 2024 and 2025 = ~76%

Obvious caveat that if we tell lots of people that the acceptance rate is high, we might attract more people without any context on EA and the rate would go down.

(I've not closely checked the data)

I'd feel pretty gaslit if someone said EA was going swimmingly and unaffected by the tribulations of the last couple of years, perhaps less so if they think there's been a bounce back after an initial decline but, you know, I'd want to see the data for that.

 

I agree with this fwiw, that seems fair

Thanks for adding more here :) I think that evidence is more persuasive, though still reads a little vibe-y and data-free, and involves reading intention into some actions that might not be there.

Ever since November 2022, the EA movement has only seemed to know criticism and scandal. Some have even gone so far to declare that EA is dead or dying,[1] or no longer worth standing behind,[2] or otherwise disassociate themselves from the movement even if outside observers would clearly identify them as being 'EA'.[3] This negative environment that EA finds itself in is, I think, indicative of its state as a social movement in decline.

 

I don't think the claim "EA is in decline" is well-defended in this post. You link to a few naysayers here, but I don't think that's good evidence. "EA is in decline" is also self-fulfilling—it might decline if everyone's saying it's declining—so I expect some people say this because they want it to happen, not because they've reviewed the evidence and have concluded this is what's happening.

Colleagues of mine can pull together more evidence against, but as two examples that are salient to me:

  • EA Global London 2025 is on track to be the biggest EA conference ever.
  • We expect to welcome more people to EA events (EAG, EAGx, EA Summits) this year than ever before.

I find that hard to square with "EA is in decline". To be clear, I think the claim might be true, but it's an important enough question that it deserves some more thoughtful study and data, rather than vibes on Twitter.

I don't know why GWWC has this limit so can't comment on the request here but I think it's really cool that you're considering donating a significant portion of your monthly income to effective charities despite not earning much (especially compared to the global population). That's a selfless and inspiring act.

P.S. I hope you'll attend EAGxNigeria!

  • (I remember in the early days of 80,000 Hours, we spent a whole day hosting an UHNW. He ultimately gave £5000. The week afterwards, a one-hour call with Julia Wise - a social worker at the time - resulted in a larger donation.)

 

I learn about new ways that Julia had a significant impact on this community every few months, and it never ceases to give me a sense of awe and appreciation for her selflessness. EA would not be what it is today without Julia.

Just a heads up that this was posted on April Fool's day, but it seems like a serious post. You might want to add a quick disclaimer at the top for today :)

We (the CEA Events Team) recently posted about how we cut costs for EA Global last year. That's a big contributing factor, and involved hiring someone (a production associate) to help us cut overall costs.

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