I think it's worth noting that the two papers linked (which I agree are flawed and not that useful from an x-risk viewpoint) don't acknowledge OpenPhil funding, and so maybe the OpenPhil funding is going towards other projects within the lab.
I think that Neil Thompson has some work which is pretty awesome from an x-risk perspective (often in collaboration with people from Epoch):
- Algorithmic progress in language models
- Economic impacts of AI-augmented R&D
- The growing influence of industry in AI research
From skimming his Google Scholar, a bunch of other stuff seems broadly useful as well.
In general, research forecasting AI progress and economic impacts seems great, and even better if it's from someone academically legible like Neil Thompson.
Disclosure: I have past, present, and potential future affiliations with MIT FutureTech. These views are my own.
Thank you for this post. I think it would be helpful for readers if you explained the context a little more clearly; I think the post is a little misleading at the moment.
These were not “AI Safety” grants; they were for “modeling the trends and impacts of AI and computing” which is what Neil/the lab does. Obviously that is important for AI Safety/x-risk reduction, but it is not just about AI Safety/x-risk reduction and somewhat upstream.
Importantly, the awarded grants were to be disbursed over several years for an academic institution, so much of the work which was funded may not have started or been published. Critiquing old or unrelated papers doesn't accurately reflect the grant's impact.
You claim to have read 'most of their research' but only cite two papers, neither funded by Open Philanthropy. This doesn't accurately represent the lab's work.
Your criticisms of the papers lack depth, e.g., 'This paper has many limitations (as acknowledged by the author)' without explaining why this is problematic. Why are so many people citing that 2020 paper, if it is not useful? Do you do research in this area, or are you assuming that you know what is useful/good research here? (genuine question - I honestly don't know).
By asking readers to evaluate '$16.7M for this work', you imply that the work you've presented was what was funded, which is not the case.
Could you please update your post to address these issues and provide a more accurate representation of the grants and the lab's work?
Now, to answer your question, I personally think the work being done by the lab deserves significant funding. Some reasons:
Peter -- This is a valuable comment; thanks for adding a lot more detail about this lab.
Thanks a lot for giving more context. I really appreciate it.
These grants come from Open Philanthropy's focus area "Potential Risks from Advanced AI". I think it's fair to say they are "AI Safety" grants.
Fair point. I agree old papers might not accurately reflect the grant's impact, but they correlate.
I totally agree. That's why I shared this post as a question. I'm not an expert in the area and I wanted an expert to give me context.
I added an update linking to your answer.
Overall, I'm concerned about Open Philanthropy's granting. I have nothing against Thompson or his lab's work.