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Hi! I'm really interested in effective altruism, and I would love to move somewhere that is both warm and sunny all year long but also has a lot of effective altruists. (I'm defining warm and sunny as being able to wear summer clothing and the sky being mostly blue all year long. I loved living in Phoenix, AZ, USA, which regularly gets to 110°F or 43°C during the summer and 65°F or 18°C in the winter)

According to "EA Survey 2024:  Geography," EAs live primarily in these cities and countries:

Additionally, according to 80,000 Hours, the major EA hubs are:

  • The San Francisco Bay Area in California
  • London, Oxford, and Cambridge in the UK
  • Washington, DC (especially for US policy)
  • Boston and Cambridge in Massachusetts (especially for biorisk)
  • Plus New York, Sydney, Melbourne, Berlin, and many other major cities

 

The places the survey mentions that 80,000 Hours doesn't mention are all pretty cloudy as far as I know so I'll just discuss the 80,000 Hours places from her on.

As an American, I've heard the Bay Area, the US Northeast (DC, Boston, and Cambridge), and England are generally quite cloudy places, with the latter two being particularly cold most of the year.

The Bay Area is widely regarded as an ideal area to live, although it seems to be cloudy and slightly cold most of the year. Its nearby areas areas get much warmer and sunnier in the summer but are also much colder and cloudier during the winter. Additionally, the nearby areas still seem like they would be too far away from the Bay Area to be worth living in.

Of the places 80,000 hours mentions, Sydney and Melbourne seem to be the most promising. They are both moderately warm and generally sunny (with Sydney getting more days of sunshine than Melbourne.)

Does any one know of good places to move that fit my criteria or any errors in what I've said?

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SF and Berkeley and south bay (San Jose/Palo Alto area) all have pretty different climates. Going off my memory:

  • SF: usually cloudy; 40 to 70 degrees
  • Berkeley/Oakland: usually cloudy in the morning and sunny by mid-day; 50 to 80 degrees
  • south bay: usually sunny; 40 to 90 degrees

It's true that SF is usually cloudy but that's not the case for the whole bay area. Berkeley/Oakland is sunny more often than not.

Ah, thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for!

If you want one place that checks all of your boxes, the Bay Area is probably the closest you’ll get without moving to Australia. A lower cost of living area with access to easy travel options might be your best bet if you have flexibility.

When I moved from Tucson to Oxford*, the weather change was more challenging than I expected. I stumbled into a (non-EA) community off the coast of Morocco and took a lot of $20 flights during the winter. That said, summer in the UK is pretty magical and most people learn to deal with the grey eventually. 

*>350 days of sunshine per year vs. 1,615 total hours 

Oh, gotcha! I appreciate the thoughts. Yeah, Oxford seems pretty cool, although I really don't think I'd get used to weather, lol.

As others note, the East Bay/Berkeley more or less hits the spot if you don't care about affordability.

(Would be nice if there were an affordable alternative though.)

As others note, the East Bay/Berkeley more or less hits the spot if you don't care about affordability. Would be nice if there were an affordable alternative though.

You might want to consider EA Serbia, which I was told in answer to a similar question has a good community, at least big enough to have their own office. I didn't end up going there, so can't comment personally, but it's on a latitude with northern Italy, so likely to average pretty warm - though it's inland, so 'average' is likely to contain cold winters and very hot summers.

(but in the same thread @Dušan D. Nešić (Dushan) mentioned that air conditioning is ubiquitous)

That's an interesting suggestion! I would not have thought of that!

Your answer is the best that I know of, sadly.

A thing you could consider is that there are a bunch of EAGx's in warm/sunny places (Ho Chi Minh City, Singapore, etc.). These cities maybe don't meet the definition of "hub", but they have enough people for a conference, which possibly will meet your needs.

Gotcha! I appreciate the help!

Austin is something of a hub I think?

Good idea! I'll look into that! Very sunny from what I've ever heard.

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I was born in Sydney, but this is like, a minor part of the reason I’ve decided to stay here for the time being. However, there aren’t a lot of working EAs here, especially not in global health.

However, I make up for this by travelling long-term for big parts of the year. I spend a fair chunk of time in country or doing long stints in London during their summer (which is quite nice). You could pick a top EA hub to live in, just spend summer there, and travel the rest of the time—or live somewhere nice, and travel to the EA hub for a few months.

Alternatively, you could move to a nice city near a lot of EA hubs and with easy transport options. I’ve considered Barcelona for this purpose, since it’s a day’s train from London and 2 days from Berlin, but has great weather year-round. I know a few European digital nomads tend to be based around the Côte d'Azur for this reason (independently of EA).

Oh, okay! Thanks for the ideas!

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