Key Takeaways
- We offer welfare range estimates for 11 farmed species: pigs, chickens, carp, salmon, octopuses, shrimp, crayfish, crabs, bees, black soldier flies, and silkworms.
- These estimates are, essentially, estimates of the differences in the possible intensities of these animals' pleasures and pains relative to humans' pleasures and pains. Then, we add a number of controversial (albeit plausible) philosophical assumptions (including hedonism, valence symmetry, and others discussed here) to reach conclusions about animals' welfare ranges relative to human's welfare range.
- Given hedonism and conditional on sentience, we think (credence: 0.7) that none of the vertebrate nonhuman animals of interest have a welfare range thatâs more than double the size of any of the others. While carp and salmon have lower scores than pigs and chickens, we suspect thatâs largely due to a lack of research.
- Given hedonism and conditional on sentience, we think (credence: 0.65) that the welfare ranges of humans and the vertebrate animals of interest are within an order of magnitude of one another.
- Given hedonism and conditional on sentience, we think (credence 0.6) that all the invertebrates of interest have welfare ranges within two orders of magnitude of the vertebrate nonhuman animals of interest. Invertebrates are so diverse and we know so little about them; hence, our caution.
- Our view is that the estimates weâve provided should be seen as placeholdersâalbeit, we submit, the best such placeholders available. Weâre providing a starting point for more rigorous, empirically-driven research into animalsâ welfare ranges. At the same time, weâre offering guidance for decisions that have to be made long before that research is finished

Introduction
This is the eighth post in the Moral Weight Project Sequence. The aim of the sequence is to provide an overview of the research that Rethink Priorities conducted between May 2021 and October 2022 on interspecific cause prioritizationâi.e., making resource allocation decisions across species. The aim of this post is to share our welfare range estimates.
This post builds on all the others in the Moral Weight Project Sequence. In the first, we explained how we understand welfare ranges and how they might be used to make cross-species cost-effectiveness estimates. In the second, we introduced the Welfare Range Table, which reported the results of a literature review covering over 90 empirical traits across 11 farmed species. In the third, we suggested a way to quantify the impact of assuming hedonism on our welfare range estimates. In the fourth, we explained why weâre skeptical of using neuron counts as our sole proxy for animalsâ moral weights. In the fifth and sixth, we explained why we arenât convinced by some revisionary ways that people try to alter humansâ and animalsâ moral weights by proposing that there are more subjects per organism than we might initially assume. In the seventh, we argued that âanimal-friendlyâ results shouldnât be that surprising given the Moral Weight Projectâs assumptionsânor are they a good reason to think that the Projectâs assumptions are mistaken.
In what follows, weâll briefly recap our understanding of welfare ranges and our proposed way of using them. Then, weâll summarize our methodology and respond to some questions and objections.
How can we compare benefits to the members of different species?
Many EA organizations use DALYs-averted as a unit of goodness. So, the Moral Weight Project tries to express animalsâ welfare level changes in terms of DALYs-averted. This lets people conduct standard cost-effectiveness analyses across human and animal interventions. (What follows is a compressed overview of our strategy. For more detail, please see our Introduction to the Moral Weight Project.)
In the context of a cost-effectiveness analysis, a âmoral weight discountâ is a function that takes some amount of some speciesâ welfare as an input and has some number of DALYs as an output. So, the Moral Weight Project tries to provide âmoral weight discountsâ for 11 commercially-significant species. The interpretation of this function depends on the moral assumptions in play. The Moral Weight Project assumes hedonism (welfare is determined wholly by positively and negatively valenced experiences) and unitarianism (equal amounts of welfare count equally, regardless of whose welfare it is). Given hedonism and unitarianism, a species's moral weight is how much welfare its members can realizeâi.e., its membersâ capacity for welfare. That is, everyoneâs welfare counts the same, but some may be able to realize more welfare than others.
Capacity for welfare = welfare range Ă lifespan. An individualâs welfare range is the difference between the best and worst welfare states the individual can realize. In other words, assume we can assign a positive number to the best welfare state the individual can realize and a negative number to the worst welfare state the individual can realize. The difference between them is the individualâs welfare range.
Weâre ultimately trying to convert changes in welfare levels into DALYs. So, the relevant âbestâ human welfare state is the average welfare level of the average human in full health. The relevant âbestâ animal welfare states will be analogous.
For simplicityâs sake, we assume that humansâ welfare range is symmetrical around the neutral point. So, if the âbestâ welfare state for a human is represented by some arbitrary positive number, then the âworstâ welfare state is represented by the negation of that number. (For reasons we sketch below, this assumption matters less than you might think. For some preliminary thoughts on the symmetry assumption, see this report.)
Welfare ranges allow us to convert species-relative welfare assessments, understood as percentage changes in the portions of animalsâ welfare ranges, into a common unit. To illustrate, letâs make the following assumptions:
- Chickensâ welfare range is 10% of humansâ welfare range.
- Over the course of a year, the average chicken is about half as badly off as they could be in conventional cages (theyâre at the ~50% mark in the negative portion of their welfare range).
- Over the course of a year, the average chicken is about a quarter as badly off as they could be in a cage-free system (theyâre at the ~25% mark in the negative portion of their welfare range).
Given these assumptions, we can calculate the welfare gain of a cage-free campaign in DALY-equivalents averted:
- Assuming symmetry around the neutral point, the negative portion of chickensâ welfare range is 10% of humansâ positive welfare range. (For instance, if humansâ welfare range is 100 and chickensâ welfare range is 10, humans range from -50 to 50 and chickens range from -5 to 5. So, the negative portion of chickensâ welfare range is still 10% of humansâ welfare range.)
- Given our assumptions about the welfare impacts of the two production systems, the move from conventional cages to aviary systems averts an amount of welfare equivalent to 25% of the average chickenâs negative welfare range. (Continuing with the numbers mentioned in the previous step, it moves chickens from -2.5 to -1.25).
- So, assuming symmetry around the neutral point, 25% of chickensâ negative welfare range is equivalent to 2.5% (10% Ă 25%) of humansâ positive welfare range.
- By definition, averting a DALY averts the loss of an amount of welfare equivalent to the positive portion of humansâ welfare range for a year.
- So, assuming symmetry around the neutral point, the move from conventional cages to aviary systems averts the equivalent of 0.025 DALYs per chicken per year on average.
The symmetry assumption doesnât matter for our welfare range estimates. Instead, it matters for estimates of the total number of DALY-equivalents averted. Suppose, for instance, that humansâ welfare range is 0 to 100 (on net, their welfare is always neutral or positive) whereas chickensâ welfare range is -9 to 1 (their welfare can be 9x worse than it can be good). Our estimate of chickensâ relative welfare range would be the same: 10%. However, such an asymmetry would obviously alter the amount of welfare represented by â25% of chickensâ negative welfare rangeâ (0.225 DALYs per chicken per year on average vs. 0.025 DALYs per chicken per year on average). To make the implications clear, weâve developed a farmed animal welfare cost-effectiveness BOTEC that allows users to input their own assumptions about the skews of animalsâ welfare ranges to convert welfare changes into DALY-equivalents averted.
Some welfare range estimates
What follows are some probability-of-sentience- and rate-of-subjective-experience-adjusted welfare range estimates. These numbers are based on:
- estimates of the probability of sentience for the following taxa
- welfare range estimates conditional on sentience for the following taxa, and
- credence-adjusted rates of subjective experience estimates (based on Jason Schukraftâs prior work on the rate of subjective experience, about which more below).
Species | 5th-percentile | 50th-percentile | 95th-percentile |
Pigs | 0.005 | 0.515 | 1.031 |
Chickens | 0.002 | 0.332 | 0.869 |
Octopuses | 0.004 | 0.213 | 1.471 |
Carp | 0 | 0.089 | 0.568 |
Bees | 0 | 0.071 | 0.461 |
Salmon | 0 | 0.056 | 0.513 |
Crayfish | 0 | 0.038 | 0.491 |
Shrimp | 0 | 0.031 | 1.149 |
Crabs | 0 | 0.023 | 0.414 |
Black Soldier Flies | 0 | 0.013 | 0.196 |
Silkworms | 0 | 0.002 | 0.073 |
We provide the technical details in this document. We now turn to the more general methodology behind these numbers.
How did we estimate relative welfare ranges?
Given hedonism, an individualâs welfare range is the difference between the welfare level associated with the most intense positively valenced experience the individual can realize and the welfare level associated with the most intense negatively valenced experience that the individual can realize. So, we looked for evidence of variation in the capacities that generate positively and negatively valenced experiences.
Since there are no agreed-upon objective measures of the intensity of valenced states, we pursued a four-step strategy:
- Make some plausible assumptions about the evolutionary function of valenced experiences
- Given those functions, identify a lot of empirical traits that could serve as proxies for variation with respect to those functions
- Survey the literature for evidence about those traits
- Aggregate the results
There are many theories of valence, not all of which are mutually exclusive. For instance, some think that valenced experiences represent information in a motivationally-salient way (âThatâs goodâ / âThatâs badâ / âThatâs really goodâ / etc.; Cutter & Tye 2011), others that valenced experiences provide a common currency for decision-making (âA feels better than Bâ / âC feels worse than Dâ; Ginsburg & Jablonka 2019), and others still that they facilitate learning (âIf I do X, I feel goodâ / âIf I do Y, I feel badâ; Damasio & Carvalho 2013). In all three cases, there are potential links between valence and conceptual or representational complexity, decision-making complexity, and affective (emotional) richness.
We conducted a large literature review for traits that could serve as indicators of conceptual or representational complexity, decision-making complexity, and affective richness, involving over 100 qualitative and quantitative proxies across 11 species. The literature review is available here. Descriptions of the proxies are available here (and for the âquantitative proxiesâ model, here).
We aggregated the results. However, aggregation raises lots of thorny methodological issues. So, we opted to build several models. For a variety of reasons, though, we ultimately opted not to include them all in our estimates: some could be accused of stacking the deck in favor of animals (the Equality Model), some were missing too much data (the Quantitative Model), and some involved assumptions that went beyond the key assumptions of the Moral Weight Project (the Grouped Proxy Model and the JND Model). We then took the remaining models and used Monte Carlo simulations to estimate the distribution of welfare ranges, as detailed here.
Jason Schukraft estimated that thereâs a ~70% chance that there exist morally relevant differences in the rate of subjective experience and a ~40% chance that CFF values roughly track the rate of subjective experience under ideal conditions. So, we applied a credence-discounted adjustment to our welfare range estimates by the CFF for a given species. Since this proxy suggests that some animals have a faster rate of subjective experience than humans, it supports greater-than-human welfare range estimates on some models.
Finally, we adjusted our estimates based on our best guess estimates of the probability of sentience. We generated those estimates by extending and updating Rethink Prioritiesâ Invertebrate Sentience Table and then aggregating the results as detailed here.
Questions about and objections to the Moral Weight Projectâs methodology
âI don't share this projectâs assumptions. Can't I just ignore the results?â
We donât think so. First, if unitarianism is false, then it would be reasonable to discount our estimates by some factor or other. However, the alternativeâhierarchicalism, according to which some kinds of welfare matter more than others or some individualsâ welfare matters more than othersâ welfareâis very hard to defend. (To see this, consider the many reviews of the most systematic defense of hierarchicalism, which identify deep problems with the proposal.)
Second, and as weâve argued, rejecting hedonism might lead you to reduce our non-human animal estimates by ~â , but not by much more than that. This is because positively and negatively valenced experiences are very important even on most non-hedonist theories of welfare.
Relatedly, even if you reject both unitarianism and hedonism, our estimates would still serve as a baseline. A version of the Moral Weight Project with different philosophical assumptions would build on the methodology developed and implemented hereânot start from scratch.
âSo youâre saying that one person = ~three chickens?â
No. Weâre estimating the relative peak intensities of different animalsâ valenced states at a given time. So, if a given animal has a welfare range of 0.5 (and we assume that welfare ranges are symmetrical around the neutral point), that means something like, âThe best and worst experiences that this animal can have are half as intense as the best and worst experiences that a human can haveââremembering that, in this context, the welfare level associated with âbest experiences that a human can haveâ is the average welfare level of the average human in full health, which, presumably, is lower than the most intense pleasure humans are physically capable of experiencing.
Because weâre estimating the relative intensities of valenced states at a time, not over time, you have to factor in lifespan to make individual-to-individual comparisons. Suppose, then, that the animal just mentionedâthe one with a welfare range of 0.5âhas a lifespan of 10 years, whereas the average human has a lifespan of 80. Then, humans have, on average, 16x this animalâs capacity for welfare; equivalently, its capacity for welfare is 0.0625x a humanâs capacity for welfare.
However, while there are decision-making contexts where total capacity for welfare matters, they arenât the most pressing ones. In practice, we rarely compare the value of creating animal lives with the value of creating human lives. Instead, weâre usually comparing either improving animal welfare (welfare reforms) or preventing animals from coming into existence (diet change â reduction in production levels) with improving human welfare or saving human lives. Whatever combination we consider, total capacity for welfare isnât relevant. Instead, we want to know things like how much suffering we can avert via some welfare reform vs. how many years of human life will this intervention save. Welfare ranges can be helpful in answering the former question.
âI canât believe that bees beat salmon!â
We also find it implausible that bees have larger welfare ranges than salmon. But (a) weâre also worried about pro-vertebrate bias; (b) bees are really impressive; (c) there's a great deal of overlap in the plausible welfare ranges for these two types of animals, so we aren't claiming that their welfare ranges are significantly different; and (d) we donât know how to adjust the scores in a non-arbitrary way. So, weâve let the result stand. (Weâd make similar points in response to: âI canât believe that octopuses beat carp!â)
âEven granting the projectâs assumptions, it seems obvious that [insert species] have much smaller welfare ranges than youâre suggesting. If the empirical evidence doesnât demonstrate that, isnât it a problem with the empirical evidence?â
No. First, the empirical evidence is our only objective guide to animalsâ abilitiesâavoiding the twin mistakes of anthropomorphism (attributing human characteristics to nonhumans) and what Franz de Waal calls âanthropodenialââi.e., âthe a priori rejection of shared characteristics between humans and animals.â So, weâre inclined to defer to it.
This deference, plus the assumption of hedonism, do a lot of work in explaining our estimates. Given our deference to the empirical literature, we arenât positing differences if we canât cite justifications for them. Given hedonism, lots of apparent differences between humans and animals donât matter, as theyâre irrelevant to the intensities of the valenced states. So, if our results seem counterintuitive, it may be that implicit disagreements about these assumptions explain that reaction.
Second, recall that weâre treating missing data as evidence against sentience and for larger welfare range differences. So, while the empirical evidence is limited, we arenât using that fact to stack the deck in animalsâ favorâquite the opposite.
Third, even if the results are counterintuitive, that is not necessarily a reason to reject the estimates (as we argue here). After all, itâs an open question whether we should trust any of our intuitions about animalsâ ability to generate welfare, especially if those intuitions are driven by thinking about the practical implications of these estimates. There are many, many other assumptions that need to be in place before these estimates have any practical implications at all. So, if the practical implications are counterintuitive, those other assumptions are just as much to blame.
âIâm skeptical that [insert proxy] has much to do with welfare ranges.â
In some cases, we share that skepticism; we readily grant that the proxy list could be refined. However, there is either a version of hedonism or a theory about valenced states on which each of the proxies bears on differences in welfare ranges. We couldnât resolve all those theoretical issues in the time available. Moreover, we could reject certain proxies if we had independent ways to check whether our welfare range estimates are accurate. Plainly, though, we donât. So, itâs best to err on the side of inclusiveness. Indeed, the proxy list could be expanded. We opted for a fairly inclusive approach to the proxies, which made the project enormous. Still, there are many other traits that could have been includedâand, in some cases, perhaps ought to have been included in a list of this length.
If we can make progress on the relevant theoretical issues, we can refine our proxy list. Until then, weâre navigating uncertainty by incorporating as many reasonable approaches as possible.
âHow could there be as many âunknownsâ as youâre suggesting? After all, in this context, ânot-unknownâ just means âabove or below 50% however slightlyââand surely thatâs a low bar.â
We thought it was important to have domain experts review the literature whenever possible. However, domain experts are academics. Academics are socialized into a community where itâs inappropriate to make some positive claim (âPigs have this traitâ or âpigs lack that traitâ) without being able to establish that claim to the satisfaction of their peers. There are good reasons to value this socialization in the present case. For instance, itâs difficult to predict which traits an organism will have based on its other traits. Moreover, itâs difficult to predict whether one kind of organism will have a trait because a related kind of organism does. Still, even though the probability ranges we mentioned earlier establish a very low bar for âlean yesâ and âlean noâ (above and below 50%, respectively), we defaulted to âunknownâ when we couldnât find any relevant literature. Even if our approach is defensible, other reasonable literature reviewers may have had more âlean yesâ and âlean noâ assessments than we did.
âYouâre assessing the proxies as either present or absent, but many of them obviously come either in degrees or in qualitatively different forms.â
This is indeed a limitation; we readily acknowledge that many of the proxies are relatively coarse-grained. Consider a trait like reversal learning: namely, the ability to suppress a reward-related response, which involves stopping one behavior and switching to another. This trait comes in degrees: some animals can learn to suppress a reward-related response in fewer trials; and, having learned to suppress a reward-related response at all, some can suppress their response more quickly. A more sophisticated version of the project would account for this variation.
However, it isnât clear what to do about it, as the empirical literature doesnât provide straightforward ways to score animals on many of these proxies. This problem might be solvable in the case of reversal learning specifically, since we can, at the very least, measure the rate at which the animal learns to suppress the reward-related response. In other cases, the problem is much harder. For instance, parental care is obviously different in humans than in chickens. But we donât see how to quantify the difference without making many controversial assumptions that, in all likelihood, will simply smuggle in a range of pro-human biases. So, given the current state of knowledge, the present / absent approach seems best.
âIt isnât even clear to me that [insert species] are sentient. So, why should I accept your estimate of their (ostensible) welfare range?â
You shouldnât. Instead, you should adjust our probability-of-sentience-conditioned estimate based on your credence in the hypothesis that [insert species] are sentient.
That being said, there is deep uncertainty about consciousness generally and sentience specifically. In the face of that uncertainty, we think thereâs no good argument for assigning a credence below 0.3 (30%) to the hypothesis that normal adult pigs, chickens, carp, and salmon are sentient. Likewise, we think thereâs no good argument for assigning a credence below 0.01 (1%) to the hypothesis that normal adult members of the invertebrate species of interest are sentient. So, skepticism about sentience might lead you to discount our estimates, but probably by fairly modest rates.
âYour literature review didnât turn up many negative results. However, there are lots of proxies such that itâs implausible that many animals have them. So, your welfare range estimates are probably high.â
This is a good objection. However, it isnât clear how aggressively to discount our results because of it. After all, we know so little about animalsâ lives. In many cases, no one has cared enough to investigate welfare-relevant traits; in many other cases, no one knows how to investigate them. Moreover, the history of research on animals suggests that weâll be surprised by their abilities. So, of the unknown proxies for any given species, we should expect to find at least some positive resultsâand perhaps many positive results. The upshot is that while it might make sense to discount our estimates by some modest rate (e.g., 25%â50%), we donât think it would be reasonable to discount them by, say, 90%, much less 99%.
In any case, we should stress that we arenât inflating our estimates: weâre just following what seems to us to be a reasonable methodology, premised on deferring to the state of current knowledge. As we learn more about these animals, we shouldâand will indeedâupdate.
In future work, we could make inferences about proxy possession from more distant taxa. Or, we could try using a modern missing data method to account for any potential systematic trends in why some species-model pairs have no extant evidence.
âShouldnât you give neuron counts more weight in your estimates?â
We discuss neuron counts in depth here. In brief, there are many reasons to be skeptical about the value of neuron counts as proxies for welfare ranges. Moreover, some ways of incorporating neuron counts would increase our welfare range estimates for invertebrates, not decrease them. So, we already regard the weight currently assigned as a kind of compromise with community credences.
âYou donât have a model thatâs based on the possibility that the number of conscious systems in a brain scales with neuron counts (i.e., 'the Conscious Subsystems Hypothesis')."
We discuss the conscious subsystems hypothesis in depth here. The conscious subsystems hypothesis is a highly controversial philosophical thesis. So, given our methodological commitment to letting the empirical evidence drive the results, we decided not to include this hypothesis in our calculations.
How confident are we in our estimates and what would change them?
No one should be very confident in any estimate of a nonhuman animalâs welfare range. We know far too little for that. However, weâre reasonably confident about some things.
Given hedonism and conditional on sentience, we think (credence: 0.7) that none of the vertebrate nonhuman animals of interest have a welfare range thatâs more than double the size of any of the others. While carp and salmon have lower scores than pigs and chickens, we suspect thatâs largely due to a lack of research.
Given hedonism and conditional on sentience, we think (credence: 0.65) that the welfare ranges of humans and the vertebrate animals of interest are within an order of magnitude of one another.
While humans have some unique and impressive abilities, those abilities have histories; they didnât just pop into existence when humans came on the scene. Many nonhuman animals have precursors to these abilities (or variants on them, adapted to animalsâ particular ecological niches).
Moreover, and more importantly, it isnât clear that many of these impressive abilities make much difference to the intensity of the valenced states that humans can realize. Instead, humans seem to realize a much greater variety of valenced states. If hedonism is true, though, variety probably doesnât matter; intensity does the work.
Given hedonism and conditional on sentience, we think (credence 0.6) that all the invertebrates of interest have welfare ranges within two orders of magnitude of the vertebrate nonhuman animals of interest. Invertebrates are so diverse and we know so little about them; hence, our caution.
As for what would change our mind, the main thing is research on the proxies. In principle, research on the proxies could alter our welfare range estimates significantly. Right now, the proxies are fairly coarse-grained and we arenât confident about their relative importance. If, for instance, we were to learn there are ten levels of reversal learning and that shrimp only reach the second, that could significantly alter our results. Likewise, if we were to learn that having a self-concept is 10x more important than parental care when it comes to estimating differences in welfare ranges, that could significantly alter our results.
Conclusion
Our view is that the estimates weâve provided are placeholders. Our estimates will change as we learn more about all animals, human and nonhuman. They will change as we learn more about the various traits we share with nonhuman animals and the various traits we donât share with them. They will change with advances in comparative cognition, neuroscience, philosophy, and various other fields. Weâre under no illusions that weâre providing the last word on this topic. Instead, weâre providing a starting point for more rigorous, empirically-driven research into animalsâ welfare ranges. At the same time, weâre offering guidance for decisions that have to be made long before that research is finished.
Acknowledgments

This research is a project of Rethink Priorities. It was written by Bob Fischer. For help at many different stages of this project, thanks to Meghan Barrett, Marcus Davis, Laura Duffy, Jamie Elsey, Leigh Gaffney, Michelle Lavery, Rachael Miller, Martina Schiestl, Alex Schnell, Jason Schukraft, Will McAuliffe, Adam Shriver, Michael St. Jules, Travis Timmerman, and Anna Trevarthen. If youâre interested in RPâs work, you can learn more by visiting our research database. For regular updates, please consider subscribing to our newsletter.
There's the standard philosophical counterexample of the experience machine, including the reformulated Joshua Greene example that addressed status quo bias. But basically, the idea is this - would you rather that the world was real or just an illusion as you're trapped as a brain in a vat (with the subjective sensory experience itself otherwise identical)? Almost certainly, and most people will give this answer, you'll want the world to be real. That's because we don't just want to think that you're free/successful/in a loving relationship - we also actually want to be all those things.
In less philosophical terms, you can think about how would not want your friends and families and family to actually hate you (even if you couldn't tell the different). And that would also be why people care about having non-moral impact even after they're dead (e.g. authors hoping their posthumously published book is successful, or some athlete wanting their achievements to stand the test of time and not being bested at the next competition, or some mathematician wanting to prove some conjecture and not just think he did).